Audiophile
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Just wondering, have you guys ever attempted to show your friends any of the material on this website? If so, how have they reacted to it?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Enlightening Your Friends?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Marvin Gaye
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I'd be more interested in showing someone like my 28 year old uncle for example. He's ike my older brother, and just went through a divorce after cheating on his wife.They've also got two kids...who yeah, in my opinion he could benefit from Sosuave a lot more than my friends could; they'd most likely mock me for coming here anyway.
SharinganUser
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I've said it before: The First rule of fight club is that you do not talk about fight club.
No. Show them via success. Then just discuss game with them as guys talking about girls. Don't worry about showing them this site. Most times people think its pathetic. Learning to fix a computer on a forum = acceptable. Learning to fix your relationships with women = pathetic. I have never understood that equation. Wisdom is where you find it.
That being said, I recently gave my buddy a copy of The Game. We were talking about all the hot girls we see with douchebags and fat old farts. And we talked about the three areas of attraction, money, good looks and game. So my buddy says, I don't have any of those. I tell him that you can work on improving your looks and you can work on game and game is free. Then we started talking about how lame pick up artist were like mystery, and so I told him I had a copy of the Game and that it was more interesting as an insiders look into the PUA community and he should read it for laughs. He started reading it last night.
That being said, I recently gave my buddy a copy of The Game. We were talking about all the hot girls we see with douchebags and fat old farts. And we talked about the three areas of attraction, money, good looks and game. So my buddy says, I don't have any of those. I tell him that you can work on improving your looks and you can work on game and game is free. Then we started talking about how lame pick up artist were like mystery, and so I told him I had a copy of the Game and that it was more interesting as an insiders look into the PUA community and he should read it for laughs. He started reading it last night.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
This is definitely true when it comes to revealing anything about you doing sarging and pick up to either friends, family, and specially women. You should never reveal that you go out and try to pick up chicks to anyone.SharinganUser said:
But if you're just talking to a male friend about women and relationships I see nothing wrong with writing down this website on a piece of paper and telling them to check out the articles/forum and how it helped your game.
If there's something in your life that you struggle with and would like to improve on i'm sure you would appreciate a friend giving you a link to a website with some great advice on your problem. The same applies to sosuave.
What's not your business is if they actually come here/take the advice seriously. You just give them the site and if they do anything with it that's not your problem.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
No I wouldn't say anything because theres very few people that can keep a secret even well intentioned people.
People have their own beliefs and beliefs are hard to change. Theres a lot of people on here who can't change their beliefs after years of debate ie women only care about looks or women only care about money.
People have their own beliefs and beliefs are hard to change. Theres a lot of people on here who can't change their beliefs after years of debate ie women only care about looks or women only care about money.
I wouldn't talk about it--not because I think it's "secret"--because I don't think that 99% of guys really have the world outlook to utilize it in any effective manner.
The internet plays a big role in everyone's life now. If you're a dude who has an interest in "seduction," your first line of thought would be "let's see what I can find on the 'net about it." If you haven't taken that step, then I don't think you're ready for information about seduction methods.
It's like the Freemasons... they don't "recruit," you have to ask. Having said that, if some guy asked me if I knew anything about seduction, I'd probably point him to some 'net materials, probably not sosuave, at least not at first. I don't think noobs should get advice from anonymous internet trolls, I think they should stick to the mainstream stuff at first.
The internet plays a big role in everyone's life now. If you're a dude who has an interest in "seduction," your first line of thought would be "let's see what I can find on the 'net about it." If you haven't taken that step, then I don't think you're ready for information about seduction methods.
It's like the Freemasons... they don't "recruit," you have to ask. Having said that, if some guy asked me if I knew anything about seduction, I'd probably point him to some 'net materials, probably not sosuave, at least not at first. I don't think noobs should get advice from anonymous internet trolls, I think they should stick to the mainstream stuff at first.
Don Alfredo
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Only one of my closest buddies know I visit this site and get tips. I would not feel comfortable in recommending it in general. A few reasons:
- In some circles, it is easier to gain a reputation than to lose it. If some people found out I was using tips and stuff to get better dates the piss taking would be merciless (in a light hearted way).
- A lot of people reject such advice. I would only recommend this site if a buddy is really really down about his chances. Like, properly depressed. Only those who want to learn will learn.
- You never want to let out of the bag that you are not solely going out to have a good time. If people suspect that you are going out to pick up, social invitiations will become fewer and people will judge you on this alone, instead of having a good time (which is the one thing that maximises your chances on nights out) or being a true friend.
- The very fact you need tips devalues you in the eyes of others. It shows you don't have it. The exceptions would be a fellow DJ or a fellow member of this community. Hell, half of us are here because we 'don't get it' or 'didn't get it'; myself included.
- You want to stand out from your buddies when you are in the field. This is especially true if your mates are better looking. If they all go on here, everyone's game will go up and thus you will be relegated back a few steps.
- In some circles, it is easier to gain a reputation than to lose it. If some people found out I was using tips and stuff to get better dates the piss taking would be merciless (in a light hearted way).
- A lot of people reject such advice. I would only recommend this site if a buddy is really really down about his chances. Like, properly depressed. Only those who want to learn will learn.
- You never want to let out of the bag that you are not solely going out to have a good time. If people suspect that you are going out to pick up, social invitiations will become fewer and people will judge you on this alone, instead of having a good time (which is the one thing that maximises your chances on nights out) or being a true friend.
- The very fact you need tips devalues you in the eyes of others. It shows you don't have it. The exceptions would be a fellow DJ or a fellow member of this community. Hell, half of us are here because we 'don't get it' or 'didn't get it'; myself included.
- You want to stand out from your buddies when you are in the field. This is especially true if your mates are better looking. If they all go on here, everyone's game will go up and thus you will be relegated back a few steps.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I found this site a few weeks back whilst searching on Google for some random stuff to get for my new flat.
Since then I find I have to check in every now and again because it's like a bad soap opera.
For every clever, well thought out post about self improvement, self development or positive mental attitude, you'll find a whole load that seem to be from kids asking 'why doesn't that wh0re love me!?!'.
Let me put it like this - if any of my friends used phrases like DJs (unless referring to a dinner jacket) or Alpha...I be would be ripping the piss for years to come.
P.S. Seriously...this is a forum dedicated, at the fundamental level, to getting men to have sex with women...and words like wh0re have to disguised? Well **** my arse...
Since then I find I have to check in every now and again because it's like a bad soap opera.
For every clever, well thought out post about self improvement, self development or positive mental attitude, you'll find a whole load that seem to be from kids asking 'why doesn't that wh0re love me!?!'.
Let me put it like this - if any of my friends used phrases like DJs (unless referring to a dinner jacket) or Alpha...I be would be ripping the piss for years to come.
P.S. Seriously...this is a forum dedicated, at the fundamental level, to getting men to have sex with women...and words like wh0re have to disguised? Well **** my arse...
Masculinity
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I showed it to a friend of mine who's good-looking, but seeks for approval a lot and just got out of a relationship; he didn't have much of a reaction. I introduced him to David Deangelo though; he loved it and now he's spinning a plate. He's still kinda AFC though cause he's scared to talk to more than one girl at a time.Audiophile said:
Overall: I agree, this is our invaluable, little cheat sheet. If my gf fond out I posted about her she'd be pissed, but again, should she get mad I have an opportunity to leave her and spin some other plates
RSanders219
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I never recommended it, but my friends and I talk about game, playing the field, etc.. all the time in real life. They'd probably think I was weird if they knew I was getting tips from a website, but hey **** it right? This place has lots of valuable information I would be lost without!