Engaged women flirt, they want that thing. How can they live with that while keeping a facade in their LTR?

[jhonny9546]

Hello friends.

If a woman is already in a relationship, and by "in a relationship," I don't mean with a boyfriend, but things like "married," "with kids," "financial commitments," etc. If a woman like this, flirts with you, and you flirt back, and she lets you know she wants you, and therefore logically wants to be ****ed..
I've noticed this behavior is almost "similar" for many women. You wouldn't believe how many "in a relationship" women hit on me. When they get the chance, they escalate and flirt heavily.

We know that women only respond to their emotions, but is it possible that this many women I do encouter don't care... They want to destroy their relationships just to satisfy their sexual needs? And then they manage to go back to their handsome husbands and their kids as if nothing had happened?
Really... as if nothing had happened.
Is this a characteristic of all women "in relationships", or are there others who would simply resent it, like us men, and won't do that?


Personally, from a man POV, having sex with one of these women would make me feel low value, or just out of my way.
I actually have 4 and more women that I see regurarly because of my activities/hobbies, who actually never stopped the flirt thing.
It would be a lie that I don't want to f8ck em. Yes I want! They're attractive too.
But I don't want to go over my values. As men, could you understand that? Could you understand how I feel?
I'm pretty sure, I don't want to do others what I don't want others to do me.
For me, it really feels bad to have this women "secretly" having a relationship with me.
But I also understand that for many man out there, this is not a problem.
At this point I can simply imagine these women also have many other man who they actually behave like this, and so that they are being fked yet..
I can only imagine them to have at least one man for each social hobby/activity they have in each place.
So that explain why they change "places" so many times (like trying so many new things, or doing the same hobby but trying everywhere)

 

[jhonny9546]

I don't like to mention people, but maybe @Sega Genesis and @BeExcellent could see this from their female brain and tell what is actually going on

 

[Manure Spherian]

Hello friends.

If a woman is already in a relationship, and by "in a relationship," I don't mean with a boyfriend, but things like "married," "with kids," "financial commitments," etc. If a woman like this, flirts with you, and you flirt back, and she lets you know she wants you, and therefore logically wants to be ****ed..
I've noticed this behavior is almost "similar" for many women. You wouldn't believe how many "in a relationship" women hit on me. When they get the chance, they escalate and flirt heavily.

We know that women only respond to their emotions, but is it possible that this many women I do encouter don't care... They want to destroy their relationships just to satisfy their sexual needs? And then they manage to go back to their handsome husbands and their kids as if nothing had happened?
Really... as if nothing had happened.
Is this a characteristic of all women "in relationships", or are there others who would simply resent it, like us men, and won't do that?


Personally, from a man POV, having sex with one of these women would make me feel low value, or just out of my way.
I actually have 4 and more women that I see regurarly because of my activities/hobbies, who actually never stopped the flirt thing.
It would be a lie that I don't want to f8ck em. Yes I want! They're attractive too.
But I don't want to go over my values. As men, could you understand that? Could you understand how I feel?
I'm pretty sure, I don't want to do others what I don't want others to do me.
For me, it really feels bad to have this women "secretly" having a relationship with me.
But I also understand that for many man out there, this is not a problem.
At this point I can simply imagine these women also have many other man who they actually behave like this, and so that they are being fked yet..
I can only imagine them to have at least one man for each social hobby/activity they have in each place.
So that explain why they change "places" so many times (like trying so many new things, or doing the same hobby but trying everywhere)

Screwing other men’s wives is a scumbag move.

Screwing other men’s “girlfriends” isn’t. In a liberated environment oftentimes the only screwing opportunities for men come with stealing women. After all, it damn near all women are always taken, men need to do that (not if they have children though).

Your ongoing analysis of women is bizarre.

I do wonder if BE and SG have ever truly been single.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I've noticed this behavior is almost "similar" for many women. You wouldn't believe how many "in a relationship" women hit on me. When they get the chance, they escalate and flirt heavily.

We know that women only respond to their emotions, but is it possible that this many women I do encouter don't care... They want to destroy their relationships just to satisfy their sexual needs?

Not really to satisfy the sexual needs , women are very very ego driven especially attractive ones

When in long term relationships that ego tends to get diminshed quickly

She is no longer the baddie in the revealing outfit with men falling over themselves for her but rather the conservative & boring wife / mother nobody is interested in

Often their own partners aren't even that bothered anymore because familiarity breeds contempt

Some women cope with it by just renouncing their sexuality and falling into that tradwife "dinners on the table" archetype

Others never fully accept the transition and thus once an opportunity or some alcohol and a bit of fresh male attention comes along anything tends to go.

She's flattered a man still wants her and it reminds her of her past

Men are exactly the same but tend to actively pursue fresh Pu$$y instead of just waiting for it to come to them

 

[jhonny9546]

Some women cope with it by just renouncing their sexuality and falling into that tradwife "dinners on the table" archetype

Never heard about that, it's a US saying?

 

[Gamisch]

Screwing other men’s wives is a scumbag move.

Screwing other men’s “girlfriends” isn’t. In a liberated environment oftentimes the only screwing opportunities for men come with stealing women. After all, it damn near all women are always taken, men need to do that (not if they have children though).

Your ongoing analysis of women is bizarre.

I do wonder if BE and SG have ever truly been single.

How ?

I don't get the " secret seal" that people put in marriage. It's not like being married means you love a woman more or better.

Especially because you say screwing a GF is fine but a wife isn't. Very hypocritical imo.

 

[Lauel]

I'm pretty sure, I don't want to do others what I don't want others to do me.

My respect for you went ++ after this. I do believe the same, and I hope other men would do the same too.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@jhonny9546
"I've noticed this behavior is almost "similar" for many women. You wouldn't believe"

No, I believe it, for the simple fact that what you describe happens to many of us. As to your question("How women live with thar?"):

Quite easily, really... Breaking any sort taboo(Flirting with, and perhaps even bedding a man who isn't their husband/may even be another woman's fella, in this case. I.E. Not something "Good Girls" do), then getting away with it produces a thrill that can be highly addictive

So, like everything else in life that's addictive those thought process and behaviors continue along unabated, UNTIL the junkie's antics deliver life-shattering consequences, which ultimately compel them to question their current trajectory

 

[The Duke]

Women are natural actors, words don't mean as much to them as men. They stay tru to their emotions, and when her emotional brain makes her "feel" she isn't satisfied, every one of them is prone to flirt, cheat, seek validation outside their relationships.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Are you really this naive?

 

[Lauel]

Women are natural actors, words don't mean as much to them as men. They stay tru to their emotions, and when her emotional brain makes her "feel" she isn't satisfied, every one of them is prone to flirt, cheat, seek validation outside their relationships.

Adding to this:
One thing I quickly learned over time is that a man will die for the truth, and a woman will live for a lie.
When I started observing, I don't remember who said this but it was somewhere in the lines of whatever comes out of a woman's mouth is truth in her sense. Whatever she manifests or utters or imagines is "right", and else is not.
And what does a woman believe ? Her emotions. So you have these emotions which become basis of her reality. No matter how devoted or sacrificial and honorable man you have been, if in her sense it's not what she "feels/desires" it becomes false and worthless.
And pursuit of something "truth/right" is not wrong after all, even if achieved through cheating or lies.

 

[Lauel]

Are you really this naive?

I wouldn't say trying to understand the deeper conscience of half of humanity is naive

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I wouldn't say trying to understand the deeper conscience of half of humanity is naive

It's a futile pursuit.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I don't get the " secret seal" that people put in marriage. It's not like being married means you love a woman more or better.

Well, I happen to agree with the considering people can love each other with or without marriage. And love has absolutely nothing to do with my post. A man interfering with a marriage (screwing another man's wife, as I said) is an interloper, someone who is an active participant in f-cking up a family, including children, and whatever other bonds that are in that family (in-laws, close friends of the family, fellow religious devotees or whatever other community members connected to them). Kids do not need some assh-le f-cking up their family, nor do they need women's "bf's" around.

Marriage isn't needed for love, screwing, child raising (adequate raising is something else), or companionship.

F-cking some guy's girlfriend has high probability in this liberated sexual environment, and as I said, might even be necessary if men want to play the game. Damn near every ordinary looking woman over eighteen years old has a boyfriend, a guy she is "seeing," a guy she is "talking to," an ex she is recovering from or who is trying to get back in the picture, blah blah blah. Hence my retired psychologist (one of the few actually clued in) used the term boyfriend du jour and the terms "she's not yours, its just your turn," "monkey branching," and "rotating polyandry". Very few average looking or pretty women are blank slates. Even many fat women aren't. The few women on here were likely never properly single.

 

[The Duke]

It's a futile pursuit.

Maybe for some, but not for others. Wisdom arrives in many forms. Sometimes a guy needs a more in depth understanding. Surface level isn't good enough to make a dent in changing his behavior. So you do what it takes. The path we take doesn't matter, just as long as we get there.

Be happy you didn't need to go deep to figure it out. Some of us had to.

 

[Lauel]

It's a futile pursuit.

We all reach to some conclusion after an understanding. But yea he must understand and end this matter rather than writing books on it (exaggeration)

 

[OngBak]

Maybe for some, but not for others. Wisdom arrives in many forms. Sometimes a guy needs a more in depth understanding. Surface level isn't good enough to make a dent in changing his behavior. So you do what it takes. The path we take doesn't matter, just as long as we get there.

Be happy you didn't need to go deep to figure it out. Some of us had to.

I agree to an extent. I have a background in psychology and I’m currently pursuing a business degree, so I get both sides the human element, including motivation and the psyche, from psychology, and strategic thinking and incentives from business. Combining the two lets you see the world on a much deeper level, one that, honestly, most people never reach. It can feel quite lonely at that level at times. Wisdom is more manifested in the deeper layer

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

We all reach to some conclusion after an understanding. But yea he must understand and end this matter rather than writing books on it (exaggeration)

I'd make the following argument. "It isn't a futile pursuit in my opinion. The futility I see here is a line of questioning without action (or pursuit) towards knowledge. And to continue to speculate without action is NOT a pursuit and therefore futile."

 

[BaronOfHair]

I'd make the following argument. "It isn't a futile pursuit in my opinion. The futility I see here is a line of questioning without action (or pursuit) towards knowledge. And to continue to speculate without action is NOT a pursuit and therefore futile."

Yeah, this all boils down to: "Women are part of the human race, and thus no less prone to often behaving less than admirably than we are"

Great... Now, what does one do with such a Eureka moment?

 

[jhonny9546]

@jhonny9546
"I've noticed this behavior is almost "similar" for many women. You wouldn't believe"

No, I believe it, for the simple fact that what you describe happens to many of us. As to your question("How women live with thar?"):

Quite easily, really... Breaking any sort taboo(Flirting with, and perhaps even bedding a man who isn't their husband/may even be another woman's fella, in this case. I.E. Not something "Good Girls" do), then getting away with it produces a thrill that can be highly addictive

So, like everything else in life that's addictive those thought process and behaviors continue along unabated, UNTIL the junkie's antics deliver life-shattering consequences, which ultimately compel them to question their current trajectory

For the simple fact that you are on the same path as me, that is, you say that it happened to you too, so we can understand each other, now I'll move on to discussing when you say that only bad girls do it and not good ones.



But I can't understand, how can a woman married for 30 years to a man of value, always devoted to her family, to her children, in short all green flags, then flirt with you and make you understand that she wants you to **** her?

Now, if the same type of woman happened to you, how can it be?