"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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sinnerman

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Has anyone felt helpless about not being able to end the phone conversation first. I'm usually good at it coz most time Im not genuinely interested in the conversation with girls I'm not serious about. However, with this one girl I just cant end the conversation. Even if I do, she'll just say no keep talking and I cant bring myself to end it. Its always her ending the conversation and I need to change that. She lives in a different town so our means of contact is via phone conversation which usually lasts for an hour. I have been on and off with her but have a great rapport and conversation just naturally flows. She's the one who calls almost 90% of the times usually at night before going to bed.

Now I know its destroying the challenge & I need to somehow change the rules here. How to proceed. thanks.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Veridin

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This is one of the little tips I have learned from SoSuave and the DJ Bible. Always be the one to end a date or a phone conversation, it is bad for you if the girl gets there first, because that means she is feeling slightly bored. I remind myself of that all the time, last time was this Wednesday when I was seeing a girl at a café.

We talk about how DJing is not a set of rules and tricks, and more about attitude, but there really are a lot of these helpful short tips floating around. Another one I keep in mind is to always have plants at home, so I bought an Easter-looking yellow plant yesterday. Things like that.

Even if I do, she'll just say no keep talking and I cant bring myself to end it.

Then this is good practice for you. Be firm, be a man! Joke about it. "Nope, gotta go, the kitchen won't paint itself. Don't feel bad, you'll get more of me next time."
 

LoneWolf

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i do it ALL the time. mostly because i don't like being on the phone for long. also on dates i try to end first. it's more a habit because i don't like when they end on me i feel hated and that they don't like me that much.
 

TheMale

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lonewolf i agree with you about the phone
me too i dont like to be on the phone for a long time
but feeling hated if the girl end up the date first ?
imagine if this gonna happened how do you gonna respond to that ?!
dont be so hard with yourself
endin de date first its a non-needy action but not to avoir this feeling of being hated
 

jophil28

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When you have had enough yabbering, take the phone into the toilet , yawn loudly and pee into the bowl and flush. She will get the message.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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deuce42

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jophil28 said:
When you have had enough yabbering, take the phone into the toilet , yawn loudly and pee into the bowl and flush. She will get the message.

Quality advice!
 
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