ok this ontis girl in friend zone. we went out 2 times nothing happened tho. but now she asked me what i wanted to do later in the week and if i wanted to hang out with nick and emma (friends). i was like well i was thinking of just us but if you want to thats fine. now shes like why dont you want them to come? i pick her up from school in 30 mins help!
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
EMERGENCY as in -30 mins
- Thread starter Stark
- Start date
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
If you're in the friend zone with her, then why do you keep trying? If you're looking for a girlfriend, this isn't going to be the one. It doesn't matter if just you two hang out (she'd probably get creeped out by that) or if there are friends around. Move on to another girl.
DavenJuan
Master Don Juan
what are you asking us?
tell her what you want. "hey i prefer me and you do......... ill pick you up at 7
i dont see the dilemna with hanging out with others though. you havent told us your agenda
tell her what you want. "hey i prefer me and you do......... ill pick you up at 7
i dont see the dilemna with hanging out with others though. you havent told us your agenda
StoneColdFox
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Stark..
Again?
Dude, is this the same girl?
Buddy, you're clueless.
Stop over analyzing thigns lol..
This ***** has you by the nuts huh?..
hang out alone, or with friends, it doesnt matter..
Lets find more than one girl pal.
Again?
Dude, is this the same girl?
Buddy, you're clueless.
Stop over analyzing thigns lol..
This ***** has you by the nuts huh?..
hang out alone, or with friends, it doesnt matter..
Lets find more than one girl pal.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
DavenJuan
Master Don Juan
i just checked your started threads since stonecold seemed to have some sort of previous reference.
i started to get really upset, but then remembered that i was there at some point and we all need work no matter where we have reached. all i can tell you is to ..
STOP TAKING SHORT CUTS!! READ THE BIBLE
because based on your threads you have not done this. you ask for advice and ppl have been saying the same thing to you over and over again. we are only here to help.
this is the biggest thing you need to get through your head...
ITS NOT ABOUT THIS GIRL...OR ANY GIRL.
ITS ABOUT YOU!!
read the bible, LISTEN to what ppl are trying to tell you.
even if this girl wants you, i dont think you can afford to waste your time with this. you seriously need to work on yourself first.
keep me posted on your progress and good luck.
i started to get really upset, but then remembered that i was there at some point and we all need work no matter where we have reached. all i can tell you is to ..
STOP TAKING SHORT CUTS!! READ THE BIBLE
because based on your threads you have not done this. you ask for advice and ppl have been saying the same thing to you over and over again. we are only here to help.
this is the biggest thing you need to get through your head...
ITS NOT ABOUT THIS GIRL...OR ANY GIRL.
ITS ABOUT YOU!!
read the bible, LISTEN to what ppl are trying to tell you.
even if this girl wants you, i dont think you can afford to waste your time with this. you seriously need to work on yourself first.
keep me posted on your progress and good luck.
StoneColdFox
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Young gun is right..
You seem wayy too nervous, play it cool.. Girls are good at reading guys and find thattt much shyness clingy and a turn off..
Another thing.. bro all your posts have been about a oneitis.. all 30+ of them..
It's fine to have someone who's qualities you greatly admire, I have those as well.. I have girls that I connect with on an emotional and mental level as well as physical and its great and its mind blowing..
but the things that make that person who she is, thats great..
but those same qualities can be found in more girls Stark.. Sure you want her, but come on.. you're a DJ you are desirable and can get any girl you want..
So branch out amico, you're not a WOW addict anymore, go be social..
You seem young, maybe physically or maybe socially wise.. You need to build up your social skills pal...
BRANCH OUT
You seem wayy too nervous, play it cool.. Girls are good at reading guys and find thattt much shyness clingy and a turn off..
Another thing.. bro all your posts have been about a oneitis.. all 30+ of them..
It's fine to have someone who's qualities you greatly admire, I have those as well.. I have girls that I connect with on an emotional and mental level as well as physical and its great and its mind blowing..
but the things that make that person who she is, thats great..
but those same qualities can be found in more girls Stark.. Sure you want her, but come on.. you're a DJ you are desirable and can get any girl you want..
So branch out amico, you're not a WOW addict anymore, go be social..
You seem young, maybe physically or maybe socially wise.. You need to build up your social skills pal...
BRANCH OUT
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
Well, I know DavenJuan, but you guys, please just help me out this one time, with this particular one, as she is very special, then I'll go read the bible and learn the entire process the way I really need to, and focus on myself.DavenJuan said:
DavenJuan
Master Don Juan
you are posting under two different names?
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
No silly. I was pointing to everyone how his mind is probably working in this one-itis situation he's got in his hands.
He won't be ready to do what he needs to until he gets in deeper in one-itis and LJBF zone and is suffering from all the supplication. Then he'll be ready. I say in about 3-4 months.
He won't be ready to do what he needs to until he gets in deeper in one-itis and LJBF zone and is suffering from all the supplication. Then he'll be ready. I say in about 3-4 months.
DavenJuan
Master Don Juan
:crazy:Gangster Of Love said:
thought that was weird. ive seen several of your posts and it definitely didnt sound like other posts.
its sad if thats his approach
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
Yeah, he's not listening to anybody. I mean, come on. How can you all his situation an "EMERGENCY"?
Man is this the same girl with the ex who is like 24 years old who gets her alcohol and weed? Why would you go for a girl like that in the first place? Even if you "landed" this girl, (you probably won't - sorry, being honest) you'd most likely be pretty miserable with her - unless you're into those kinds of girls. Personally, I try to stay away from girls with excessive drinking problems, and ESPECIALLY drug users. These are some of the most insecure girls you'll ever meet, and $10 says she would cheat on you. I don't care how hot she is, this isn't the kind of girl you want to get involved with.
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
Yes, but what if he is also a pot smoker who just likes to sit around and drink, with no motivation? Why would he deserve a different kind of girl? Don't know the poster, just saying.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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In that case something would have happened on the first date!DonJuan11 said:
But for you, Stark, Oneitis and you're in the friend zone, nothing will blossom.
Next her and get your tail back in that field and get some more chicks. And stay out of the friend zone by acting like a man instead of a doormat or a caterer for her every whim.
well actually things went pretty well. i picked her up and had a normal convo. then she asked me what i wanted to do later this week and then said tuesday or thurs is good i picked tues. then we somehow got on the topic of sex and talked about that untill i dropped her off. she said nothing about the friends.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.