"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Eh...how did I blow it?

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So I walked a girl back to her dorm twice in a week, we made plans for Sunday to watch a movie at her place.
I come over, she somewhat nicely dressed up (in jeans though...), recently showered, gives me affectionate hug, and we proceed to watch our movie.

She says "I'm probably going to pass out and not finish watching it because I'm really tired" (she just got back from some conference).

I had no idea how to take that...I took it "I am too tired to f*ck tonight".

I still make out with her and watch the movie.

All her roommates (3 of them) were in the apartment as well, so I just felt it wasn't a good time.

Anyway, after movie we kiss, hug, "I had a grea time", bye. Ever since she pretty much won't answer my phone calls even though when I do see her, she agrees to go out with me (but never does).

Did I screw up because I didn't f*ck her that night? It really didn't feel right with all those roomies and her saying she is real tired.

I met her friend once at a party and she asked "Didn't you guys go on a date?" and I said "Yeah, but she won't ever call me" to which her friend replied "Oh, I'm her best friend and I am the one who has to call her."
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Its sounds like its just the way she is - of course who wants that non-sense.
 

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something went wrong. You did something, or she was expecting something. WHo knows.

just blow her off and find another. dont waste time... TIME is priceless.
 

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But generally speaking, when a girl says she is tired before or after making out...do you take it as "I do not want sex" or "I do want sex"

I am not sure, but when I'm tired I am not really up for it...
 

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The facts that she allowed you into her place AND was forthright with you about being tired is a good sign. I'd stick with it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Okay, my first post here.

Flame away.

But, the reason i post is i am kin angry right now. I have watched this board for a while, seen the advice go down hill badly. All your advice so far has been rubbish.

Where are the "Read The Bible" answers anymore. You need to do that.

Yeah, i will tell you all my stories soon. I think they need to be told. I will tell.

I will let one of the experts tear you apart, and you really need that. Don't complain, i wish i had this years ago.

The jist.

You didnt try it on. You didnt escalate. You cared too much about her. You were too nice to her. And many more. She is hacked off that you didnt try enough. Come on.

I feel sad for you. I await the kick up the backside that you deserve. You will thank us for it, man.

Jesus. Pure frustration.

In one: I always wondered why women got hacked off with me when i didnt try it on. And they do.

Now i know. It will never happen again. And the funny thing? Since i stopped caring, since i tried it on (even if I thought they weren't receptive) they have never once flamed me for it (even though i have been turned down many times).

So it goes.

"So I walked a girl back to her dorm twice in a week"

Need i say more.

Please flame, please.
 

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Thank you piranha.

My first post and i get sent pictures.

Touched i am.

Special i feel.

Sadly, my point about this place has been proven. No help. No answers. Just inane jabber.

So it goes.

Perhaps we should just leave it to the others. (I don't think i feel the need to prove myself anymore. I think i have given up already)
 

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AlanBiley said:
Okay, my first post here.

Flame away.

But, the reason i post is i am kin angry right now. I have watched this board for a while, seen the advice go down hill badly. All your advice so far has been rubbish.

Where are the "Read The Bible" answers anymore. You need to do that.

Yeah, i will tell you all my stories soon. I think they need to be told. I will tell.

I will let one of the experts tear you apart, and you really need that. Don't complain, i wish i had this years ago.

The jist.

You didnt try it on. You didnt escalate. You cared too much about her. You were too nice to her. And many more. She is hacked off that you didnt try enough. Come on.

I feel sad for you. I await the kick up the backside that you deserve. You will thank us for it, man.

Jesus. Pure frustration.

In one: I always wondered why women got hacked off with me when i didnt try it on. And they do.

Now i know. It will never happen again. And the funny thing? Since i stopped caring, since i tried it on (even if I thought they weren't receptive) they have never once flamed me for it (even though i have been turned down many times).

So it goes.

"So I walked a girl back to her dorm twice in a week"

Need i say more.

Please flame, please.
I am cool with being flamed for not trying to f*ck her that night.
But walking back is something I end up doing regardless because we live in almost the SAME place! So, its just on the way back from class to my place I walk with her. I did not get out of my way at all.

I also had the mindset of "Its too soon to have sex on the first date" and that she was tired...I mean, how does being tired signify wanting sex?
 

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realsmoothie said:
The facts that she allowed you into her place AND was forthright with you about being tired is a good sign. I'd stick with it.
Sign of...wanting sex? I'm so lost as to what it all meant.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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