"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Eh...how did I blow it?

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So I walked a girl back to her dorm twice in a week, we made plans for Sunday to watch a movie at her place.
I come over, she somewhat nicely dressed up (in jeans though...), recently showered, gives me affectionate hug, and we proceed to watch our movie.

She says "I'm probably going to pass out and not finish watching it because I'm really tired" (she just got back from some conference).

I had no idea how to take that...I took it "I am too tired to f*ck tonight".

I still make out with her and watch the movie.

All her roommates (3 of them) were in the apartment as well, so I just felt it wasn't a good time.

Anyway, after movie we kiss, hug, "I had a grea time", bye. Ever since she pretty much won't answer my phone calls even though when I do see her, she agrees to go out with me (but never does).

Did I screw up because I didn't f*ck her that night? It really didn't feel right with all those roomies and her saying she is real tired.

I met her friend once at a party and she asked "Didn't you guys go on a date?" and I said "Yeah, but she won't ever call me" to which her friend replied "Oh, I'm her best friend and I am the one who has to call her."
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Its sounds like its just the way she is - of course who wants that non-sense.
 

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something went wrong. You did something, or she was expecting something. WHo knows.

just blow her off and find another. dont waste time... TIME is priceless.
 

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But generally speaking, when a girl says she is tired before or after making out...do you take it as "I do not want sex" or "I do want sex"

I am not sure, but when I'm tired I am not really up for it...
 

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The facts that she allowed you into her place AND was forthright with you about being tired is a good sign. I'd stick with it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Okay, my first post here.

Flame away.

But, the reason i post is i am kin angry right now. I have watched this board for a while, seen the advice go down hill badly. All your advice so far has been rubbish.

Where are the "Read The Bible" answers anymore. You need to do that.

Yeah, i will tell you all my stories soon. I think they need to be told. I will tell.

I will let one of the experts tear you apart, and you really need that. Don't complain, i wish i had this years ago.

The jist.

You didnt try it on. You didnt escalate. You cared too much about her. You were too nice to her. And many more. She is hacked off that you didnt try enough. Come on.

I feel sad for you. I await the kick up the backside that you deserve. You will thank us for it, man.

Jesus. Pure frustration.

In one: I always wondered why women got hacked off with me when i didnt try it on. And they do.

Now i know. It will never happen again. And the funny thing? Since i stopped caring, since i tried it on (even if I thought they weren't receptive) they have never once flamed me for it (even though i have been turned down many times).

So it goes.

"So I walked a girl back to her dorm twice in a week"

Need i say more.

Please flame, please.
 

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Thank you piranha.

My first post and i get sent pictures.

Touched i am.

Special i feel.

Sadly, my point about this place has been proven. No help. No answers. Just inane jabber.

So it goes.

Perhaps we should just leave it to the others. (I don't think i feel the need to prove myself anymore. I think i have given up already)
 

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AlanBiley said:
Okay, my first post here.

Flame away.

But, the reason i post is i am kin angry right now. I have watched this board for a while, seen the advice go down hill badly. All your advice so far has been rubbish.

Where are the "Read The Bible" answers anymore. You need to do that.

Yeah, i will tell you all my stories soon. I think they need to be told. I will tell.

I will let one of the experts tear you apart, and you really need that. Don't complain, i wish i had this years ago.

The jist.

You didnt try it on. You didnt escalate. You cared too much about her. You were too nice to her. And many more. She is hacked off that you didnt try enough. Come on.

I feel sad for you. I await the kick up the backside that you deserve. You will thank us for it, man.

Jesus. Pure frustration.

In one: I always wondered why women got hacked off with me when i didnt try it on. And they do.

Now i know. It will never happen again. And the funny thing? Since i stopped caring, since i tried it on (even if I thought they weren't receptive) they have never once flamed me for it (even though i have been turned down many times).

So it goes.

"So I walked a girl back to her dorm twice in a week"

Need i say more.

Please flame, please.
I am cool with being flamed for not trying to f*ck her that night.
But walking back is something I end up doing regardless because we live in almost the SAME place! So, its just on the way back from class to my place I walk with her. I did not get out of my way at all.

I also had the mindset of "Its too soon to have sex on the first date" and that she was tired...I mean, how does being tired signify wanting sex?
 

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realsmoothie said:
The facts that she allowed you into her place AND was forthright with you about being tired is a good sign. I'd stick with it.
Sign of...wanting sex? I'm so lost as to what it all meant.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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