"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dumped for bein "too confident"!!

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Well she just told me she wants to be alone and not hang out with me anymore because we have nothing in common and I am "TOO CONFIDENT". What the hell? I used all the methods on this site to bed her and now it looks like they drove her off. What says everybody about this?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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LostAndConfused said:
Does she happen to have a fetish for insecure men?

Or were you so ****y you drove her off? (over-confident)

I must have been over confident in my texts and emails. I am going to ask her about that fetish right now. Thanks.
 

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What about the nothing in common part? That came before the too confident part.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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coder said:
What about the nothing in common part? That came before the too confident part.

Sounds like something she just made up out of thin air to throw in with the "confidence" issue. We have plenty in common as far as I know.

She wasn't complaining about confidence when I was shagging her good. As for her finding someone else? Probably, but she tells me that is not the case :rolleyes:

She also just admitted she has depression.
 
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LostAndConfused said:
Does she happen to have a fetish for insecure men?
I asked her about that check out the reply:

"I am not looking for a secure or insecure man.. I just got divorced. Enough. Bye"


Any good ideas for a reply?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Randallpink83 said:
most girls have depression.. and headaches... Their brains work extra hard to create these two things.

She actually went into a little more detail saying "my depression isn't a problem with men it's a problem in my whole family"

Whatever the hell that means :crazy:
 

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But it's fun pushing her buttons.
pushing her buttons and pushing her away. Let her chase you now.
She actually went into a little more detail saying "my depression isn't a problem with men it's a problem with my whole family"
Sounds like she's wants to discuss her problems with you which you'll be automatically friend-zoned.
 

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stylemaker said:
Pushing her buttons and pushing her away. Let her chase you now.
I don't think she'll be chasing him any time soon, possibly with the exception of out her door with a broom. :rolleyes:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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dude! that happened to me too. well im only 19 but last year my girl said .... u need to stop being so ****y and into yourself...then dumped me few days later hwile i was sick. Now i got to gym and am still ****y...and shes like "hey ill be in town this week we shoudl hang out"


LOL!
women.....
 
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Play the Game said:
I don't think she'll be chasing him any time soon, possibly with the exception of out her door with a broom. :rolleyes:
LOL.. I think there's still some chasing left in her.
 
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Zaraza said:
dude! that happened to me too. well im only 19 but last year my girl said .... u need to stop being so ****y and into yourself...then dumped me few days later hwile i was sick. Now i got to gym and am still ****y...and shes like "hey ill be in town this week we shoudl hang out"


LOL!
women.....
Funny.. let's hope history repeats itself here. The situation was NOT bad at all. She gave me the "LJBF" line a few weeks ago, but still game over that weekend and we shagged.

I was trying to get another round tonight and she dropped the "too confident" and "I want to be alone" stuff with me.

Oh well...
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
She actually went into a little more detail saying "my depression isn't a problem with men it's a problem in my whole family"

Whatever the hell that means :crazy:
It meant that you put too much pressure on her when she had other things going on in her life whether you did it confidently or not. Should have focused on spinning other plates and let her come to you if and when she was ready. Besides, you guys weren't really dating, you were just occasional FBs, don't treat the relationship as if it was something that it never was.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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