"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Dumped for bein "too confident"!!

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Well she just told me she wants to be alone and not hang out with me anymore because we have nothing in common and I am "TOO CONFIDENT". What the hell? I used all the methods on this site to bed her and now it looks like they drove her off. What says everybody about this?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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LostAndConfused said:
Does she happen to have a fetish for insecure men?

Or were you so ****y you drove her off? (over-confident)

I must have been over confident in my texts and emails. I am going to ask her about that fetish right now. Thanks.
 

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What about the nothing in common part? That came before the too confident part.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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coder said:
What about the nothing in common part? That came before the too confident part.

Sounds like something she just made up out of thin air to throw in with the "confidence" issue. We have plenty in common as far as I know.

She wasn't complaining about confidence when I was shagging her good. As for her finding someone else? Probably, but she tells me that is not the case :rolleyes:

She also just admitted she has depression.
 
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LostAndConfused said:
Does she happen to have a fetish for insecure men?
I asked her about that check out the reply:

"I am not looking for a secure or insecure man.. I just got divorced. Enough. Bye"


Any good ideas for a reply?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Randallpink83 said:
most girls have depression.. and headaches... Their brains work extra hard to create these two things.

She actually went into a little more detail saying "my depression isn't a problem with men it's a problem in my whole family"

Whatever the hell that means :crazy:
 

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But it's fun pushing her buttons.
pushing her buttons and pushing her away. Let her chase you now.
She actually went into a little more detail saying "my depression isn't a problem with men it's a problem with my whole family"
Sounds like she's wants to discuss her problems with you which you'll be automatically friend-zoned.
 

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stylemaker said:
Pushing her buttons and pushing her away. Let her chase you now.
I don't think she'll be chasing him any time soon, possibly with the exception of out her door with a broom. :rolleyes:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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dude! that happened to me too. well im only 19 but last year my girl said .... u need to stop being so ****y and into yourself...then dumped me few days later hwile i was sick. Now i got to gym and am still ****y...and shes like "hey ill be in town this week we shoudl hang out"


LOL!
women.....
 
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Play the Game said:
I don't think she'll be chasing him any time soon, possibly with the exception of out her door with a broom. :rolleyes:
LOL.. I think there's still some chasing left in her.
 
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Zaraza said:
dude! that happened to me too. well im only 19 but last year my girl said .... u need to stop being so ****y and into yourself...then dumped me few days later hwile i was sick. Now i got to gym and am still ****y...and shes like "hey ill be in town this week we shoudl hang out"


LOL!
women.....
Funny.. let's hope history repeats itself here. The situation was NOT bad at all. She gave me the "LJBF" line a few weeks ago, but still game over that weekend and we shagged.

I was trying to get another round tonight and she dropped the "too confident" and "I want to be alone" stuff with me.

Oh well...
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
She actually went into a little more detail saying "my depression isn't a problem with men it's a problem in my whole family"

Whatever the hell that means :crazy:
It meant that you put too much pressure on her when she had other things going on in her life whether you did it confidently or not. Should have focused on spinning other plates and let her come to you if and when she was ready. Besides, you guys weren't really dating, you were just occasional FBs, don't treat the relationship as if it was something that it never was.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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