"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Dress to look Less muscular

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I've been working out regularly since I was 14/15 and have absolutely no idea what I'd look like if I had never worked out. My guess is that Ive probably added some 20-30 lbs of muscle through working out (at 6'3 - I'm not that muscular).

However, I'd like to try to approach without girls noticing that I'm any "muscular". Might seem silly, but I think it'd help my confidence if I can learn to pull it off without having that advantage.

Any idea on how I could dress to look less muscular/slimmer (other than not wearing body fit shirts of course)?

Say you took a before and an after picture (with 20-30+ lbs of muscle) and the person is wearing a jacket...could you tell any difference? I assume many people will say "no way", but I'm wondering, if that's true as shoulders might look broader and all
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Why would you want to do that?

The way I see it, if you've got a great body, show it off.

You weren't just born with that great body. You worked your ass off for it. Is your self-esteem that low that you don't think you deserve the attention that your hard work brings you?
 

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Sounds like he just wants to experiment, which is fine and dandy.

Polo shirts are generally pretty good at masking muscle if you find one at the right size.

Shoulder broadness doesn't say everything about muscularity, just masculinity.

Besides what kind of shock will you give a girl when you take off your shirt for the first time in bed and she sees a Greek God physique on top of her? :D
 

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How about reducing BF%? With short sleeves you'll look more muscular/vascular but with long sleeves you may actually look a bit smaller. Going from 14% or 15% BF down to 9% will shave off some size from your shoulders, arms, waist and legs. You won't fill out your shirts quite as full, they will probably hang a bit more.

Experimenting with the idea would probably be fun and something different but if you work out regularly then that is who you are and a good characteristic/attribute to have.

Instead of trying to "mask" your advantages, how about working on your "weaknesses"?
 

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You invested in something you are now having regrets for.

Think about why you want to change your style. For girls. If you do this you are saying they have significant say in that area of your life.

Personally I never dressed with a "rule" as you are searching for. Sometimes I find something I really like and that is my style. Searching for something based on advice to your problem of identification will only lead to more association with identification.

When I go shopping I can feel when enough is enough, and it is often very soon. I seek gems to brighten my life, not just lots of stuff. People often buy tons of clothes for reasons of too much social pressure. I used to wear the same pair of pair of grey sweatpants all year round.. Not because I couldn't afford more but because my lack of care for the world was so great. My threshold for their opinions of me has since, and is still evening out.

The important point to take from this is to consider your motives for your actions. Are you doing what you are for yourself, are you being true to yourself?
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Black clothing has the ability to make you look smaller (in size, not height) then you actually are. I would try wearing black long sleeves or wearing hoodies regularly if you can manage in your climate.
 

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Thanks for the replies. I really just want to experiment like someone said. I've always felt that being somewhat muscular was fairly important for my looks (and in the past have often made sure to find clothes that showed my muscle (without looking gay'ish of course)), yet (now in winter) I've been realizing that sometimes there are moments when girls check me out a lot even if I'm wearing a jacket (which I often do with just a t-shirt not 2 layers of sweaters underneath ;)), so now this has made me wonder more than a bit how important muscles really are, if you're tall (without looking skinny)and look good in general (which I think I do, though Im not saying I look like a male model or something).

PS: keep in mind I live in Germany, maybe muscles play less of a role here than in the US
 

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Yeah American women are about as shallow as Mount Everest
 

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That wasnt my point lol, my point was that it seems that in the US muscle seems to be more important looks-wise than in many parts of Europe...at least Ive heard things like that, and there are clearly more guys who lift weights in the US than here in Germany (its not that common really)
 

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Why not just go out looking like a slob? Use what you have and be thankful. Theres no reason i would try to make myself ugly to help my confidence.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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who cares what goies on iin the us man serslyt i live in canaad am fat and get massive vibes from girls who purse their lips, literally break in their thought trains to glare at mne

whatever its like thera man just deal with it

beautfy your life and you dont need to do stuff like that
 
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