"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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DragonKi's BootCamp Journal

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Fellow DJs, it is time to begin a bootcamp!

I was a long time lurker, read the bible, decided to do stuff that I wanted and now I'm in a good place in my life. Today is the day for exercise one and two of week one of the camp. Hopefully it'll be as good as Walden's first week. I wonder if any DJs from that time are still around on this forum.

For reference, here is his journal:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php?threads/boot-camp-journal.30105/

The bootcamp refereed to one of his recommended postings, but I couldn't find it, since the forum software got changed. but here is the link:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=298315
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Subscribed. Good luck
 

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Thanks Maca!

So it's been a slow couple days. Going about my daily business and it's hard to find people that will look me in the eye. I'm at 4 so far. 1 at the gym, 1 at the hospital, 2 at the grocery store.

This weekend I'm going to a meetup group, that counts right? I'm thinking of riding the public transit to get Hi's and eye contacts. The Hi part is the hardest I think, looking at people and smiling is easy as hell.
 

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Thanks Maca!

So it's been a slow couple days. Going about my daily business and it's hard to find people that will look me in the eye. I'm at 4 so far. 1 at the gym, 1 at the hospital, 2 at the grocery store.

This weekend I'm going to a meetup group, that counts right? I'm thinking of riding the public transit to get Hi's and eye contacts. The Hi part is the hardest I think, looking at people and smiling is easy as hell.
I think it depends on what part of the country you live. I can easily get 50 grettings in a day.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Vancouver, Canada. Known for it's cold, cliques. Went to one of our popular malls today. got the number up to 25. Mostly people working at stores. Some people made eye contact and looked away as I was saying Hi.

Working on saying Hi louder. Pretty sure they can here me but I don't think it's as confident as I like. Got lotion and my nails buffed by one store, ugh. Then invited to a church xmas party by an Elder, forgot his name. Walking around grinning like an idiot psychopath. lol. This damn bootcamp is terrifying at first, but gets pretty fun.

I'm going to try public transit and a touristy area tomorrow. Maybe sign up for a climbing gym certification for belaying.

I know that most people around here don't make eye contact because it's seen as, " staring someone down", which is like starting trouble/****. But it's usually not accompanied by a smile. I've been practicing in the mirror, and I'm damn sure I'm smiling.
 

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I seem to get most smile eye contacts if it's turning a corner and the eye contact smile is a reaction. Happened today when I was working at the hospital. The chick was cute, I didn't say Hi though. I was walking with coworkers.
 

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I should have chatted up this chick that was goofing off at the calendar store on trike though. I bitched out :(.

Probably going to the bar scene this weekend too. I find it way easier to talk to people at a bar.
 

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I think it depends on what part of the country you live. I can easily get 50 grettings in a day.
Hi DustMuffin,

If it's possible, I believe! May I ask where'd you go to do these 50 greetings? I'm probably going about it in a slow way.

A ladies pub night perhaps.
 

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Hi DustMuffin,

If it's possible, I believe! May I ask where'd you go to do these 50 greetings? I'm probably going about it in a slow way.

A ladies pub night perhaps.
I live in the south so everyone says hello
I start in the morning. At the conviemce store I can get 5 or more. Then work at least 25 maybe more. Grocery store, gym, gas station again...there is your 50....like i said its a curtural thing to greet everyone.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Dang, that sounds like a warm part of the country you live in.
In my culture, it's good manners to say hello and wave. But in North America, it's kind of different, it seems a lot of people keep to themselves.

I need to move to the South!

Got 5 more today, actually said hello in passing to a few, and they said Hi back, woo!
 

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Dang, that sounds like a warm part of the country you live in.
In my culture, it's good manners to say hello and wave. But in North America, it's kind of different, it seems a lot of people keep to themselves.

I need to move to the South!

Got 5 more today, actually said hello in passing to a few, and they said Hi back, woo!
Good for you! Keep at it! When I say the south I mean southern US. They are pretty friendly down here. I am working on my conversation skills by talking to strangers when I can. I have made the c store employees my buddy. Talked with this guy that was on something too in c store this morning. He had about 3 teeth total.
 

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was his name Cletus? j/k It sounds like it would've been an interesting conversation.

The struggle boys! Got stuff in my car stolen this morning. Got my 50 Hi's. On to conversations! Was super friendly to a waitress this weekend.
 

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Good for you! Keep at it! When I say the south I mean southern US. They are pretty friendly down here. I am working on my conversation skills by talking to strangers when I can. I have made the c store employees my buddy. Talked with this guy that was on something too in c store this morning. He had about 3 teeth total.
Lol, 3 teeth. I wonder if he uses them more than his gums now. Homeless dudes are pretty fun to talk to, I find. Their view on the world can be pretty warped.
 

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Dear lord, exercise 2. Talk to 10 random people for 2-10 mins. Good thing I got invited to a church this Friday from last weeks approaches. Next up will be meetup.com and old folks home. If I'm lucky, a cold approach to a chick that looks interesting. :)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Successful meetup is successful. Chatting and building rapport with people at the gym and a dude at the store was pretty easy. Xmas party at a meetup turned out great! I think I got 9 out of 10 done. Might actually be done 10 already.

This phobia of talking to girls is pretty dumb. All the ones tonight were happy to chat, this 10 rejections thing might be hard. I think hitting up a ladies night at a bar is going to have even better results than a meetup.
 

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Successful meetup is successful. Chatting and building rapport with people at the gym and a dude at the store was pretty easy. Xmas party at a meetup turned out great! I think I got 9 out of 10 done. Might actually be done 10 already.

This phobia of talking to girls is pretty dumb. All the ones tonight were happy to chat, this 10 rejections thing might be hard. I think hitting up a ladies night at a bar is going to have even better results than a meetup.
Keep up the good work
 

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Thanks Muffin!

It's so hard to find chicks that I want to date right now. My office is 100% dudes. I think I may be cornered to do cold approaches on public transit. ****, high chance of me bitching out though. Week 3 is hard!
 

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I should note that I've spoken with 2 different eastern European men, and they say that women here are cold. Just to give an idea of the challenge ahead.

One of them even said they were moving back to Romania because of it, it was partly why, but still a reason.
 

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Wow, today was the most AFC day ever. Saw 2 chicks I would talk to and bitched out.

Sort of recovered by talking to a waitress. If that even counts.

Hopefully snowboarding be more fruitful tomorrow. Why must talking to chicks be so hard?! The real question is, where can I find women that aren't waitresses or love clubbing.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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