"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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Double date?

volkme68

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I open a two set at this rival fraternity's party a couple nights ago, A had a couple guys with me but I was alone at the time. My fraternity doesn't usually get along with them, but I tend to get along with everyone, People just seem to love me. Long story short, I know like three guys there, and they're my fraternity brothers, but both are fraternities are trying to make peace.

Both girls were quite attractive and I managed to get both numbers, then go and socialize with other folks. A little later, I was with my boys at the party, and the girls came back up and wanted to hang. I hooked my buddy up with the one I didn't want shot a little C&F at the one I really wanted and we just chilled out. Said girl ate it up and she was all over me the whole night. Lots of Kino especially by her. I also met her older brother. He seems pretty cool and we got along well.

He saw some friend of hers and asked her to hook him up. She of course says yeah, and brings up a double date for him. She then comes up to me and begs me to go with her on this double date in a week or two. I said I'd think about it.

I finally call her today and we hung out a little then she went to aparty with me. This one was at one of my fraternity bro's houses. It was pretty small (50ish) I knew everyone there and I tend to be the life of the party, so everyone was talking to me. she definitely had to fight for my attention.

we left seperately, but when she left, she brought up the Double date thing again and I told he I'd have to think about it a little. and she wants to do it next sat.

The girl is cool and attractive and I really dont mind a double date. Her bro likes me and isnt going to ****block me, but I really dont know her that well.

What do you guys think? I usually dont do double dates and if i do, they are later when i really know the girl. I personally think her bro is being dumb asking his sis to hook him up but that aint my problem, since i just am interested in his sister. I am not worried about myself not having anything to say, but should I give her a negatory on the DD thing or not?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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volkme68

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what are your guys' thoughts? Yay or Nay on the double date?
 

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NEVER EVER DO DOUBLE DATES! If you're not banging her do not share her attention. She may even feel attracked to the other guy present not in your case since its her brother but still. What if hes funnier? What if hes the center of attention? That would just make you look bad. There are no positives here. If you are the center of attention then you would have been so even if the other couple were not there.

It looks like she will persist on this and it may be counter productive to say no to her. Try and sneak a few dates/meets before the actual double date. Take her as far as you can first and then you should have nothing to fear as anything that comes out of your mouth will be gold to her.
 

volkme68

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yeah i think your right about the double date being no good. your right that she is being kind of persistant about it too. I guess the only thing to do is try and go out a few more times before this double thing goes down.
 
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