"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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dorky guy with a hot girl-- the "big **** or loaded" stereotype

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I was out tonight, and noticed a dude looking like a serious tool with an HB9. She looked extremely interested, and I found out that they were hooking up. I talked about the situation with the guy I was with, and he was like "Around here you see very average looking guys with very hot women all the time. He must have a big **** or he must be loaded." This seems to be a common conclusion that men make when seeing this dynamic, but seems to be against the principles of the seduction community, ie. looks don't matter as much, personality is much more important. I would love to hear what people think about the "big **** or loaded" stereotype.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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ask caped crusader

the guys is full of useful information!
 

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Oh man, don't even get me started. I'll keep it short: you are absolutely correct, HOT women hook up and have sex with ugly, dorky guys ALL THE TIME. Most hot women that I see, are with avg. to below avg.-looking guys. So much so, that it's actually refreshing to see a hot woman with a good-looking guy.

You have to remember, the reason why we see this(hot women going for ugly men), is because attraction works completely different for women, than it does for men.
 

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He may very well have a big **** or be loaded, but that's not why she's attracted to him (how would she know if he had a big **** or a lot of money unless he told her, which is definitely not a turn on for girls).

Most likely he just had a lot of confidence. Maybe he's been reading up on this stuff like we have, or he does have a big **** and/or money and that's the source of his confidence.
 
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Well,my name was mentioned,so I'll throw my two cents in. First off,I never really made any thing regarding looks. It's just in my own experience,I haven't figured out what does and doesn't work. I have confidence issues,so even with that, I wouldn't know what to say about hot chicks getting with average dorky looking guys. In my mind at least,and this still rings true,yeah,it's the guy with all the money,maybe good looks or not,and wearing the "hottest trends" in fashion,and the women are so superficial to begin with,etc....

That's the thing too,once I develp confidence,and see or realize how this works,I may have some sort of reaction to where I liek freak out over how much I have missed out on.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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