Door to door sales

[zinc4]

Guys, been doing this recently because I'm a decent sales person and am fairly successful at it. After two weeks back in the cold call (door to door/business to business sales) game, my game while sober has risen back to its old levels.

Talking to girls compared to door to door is like walking around all day with 100 pound weights on your shoulders then dropping them off and just feeling like u can fly.

Stopped in an Audi store today to get some groceries after my door to door routine chatted up the first hottie I saw..a nice looking German exchange student knocked her initial defenses down with ease...much easier than selling door to door and got a date set up to drink beer with her all day this Saturday.

If u have any sort of social anxiety or want to get better at talking to people get a sales job...not some prissy retail job but a door to door or selling cars.

Jobs where you are not only selling to strangers...but seen as the pesky bad guy invading their space.

 

[wifehunter]

If you knock on my door, I don't answer. Fair warning!

 

[zinc4]

Ha, better than getting name called, which happens a lot.

 

[wifehunter]

Ha, better than getting name called, which happens a lot.

LOL, that's what children do!

 

[ubercat]

@zinc4 I ll bite. U ve mentioned a couple of times crossover between sales and game - makes sense. But of course there's way too much material. Can u recommend something relevant and practical.

 

[zinc4]

Both involve shields and breaking into others comfort zones.

Sales teaches you first to approach anyone with a friendly yet commanding tone in your voice and teaches you how to talk to your target in a way that makes them feel at ease. Small talk by figuring out their interests or ability to improvise based on your immediate surroundings.

Closing the deal....most important part...teaches you how to ease up to the point of going g for the kill and guiding them through it and overcoming objection after objection.

It's something only the repeated experience can show you.

Getting a total stranger's bank account, credit card info abd social and signatures...especially a business owners... is much much more difficult than getting a girls number or for her to agree to a date.

 

[zonn]

Yeah but bro the pay is $hit. I bet you earn at best an average salary but more likely below it. This is one of th reasons why people are not queuing up to do such jobs.

 

[marmel75]

I've had a similar experience, even tho I'm married. We have a product that is pretty in demand so it's not that hard to get sales, but you still deal with the same issues.

I could have gotten laid so many times by random MILFs who'd let me know their husband was out of town or worked late or any other excuse they'd have for me to come back when that was going to happen...then commenting about how in shape I looked, my body,etc(this was in the summer when I'd wear a size too small polo shirt that I would literally bust out of). I passed because I'm trying to stay on my path. But I am telling you if you are halfway decent looking and in shape, you could get laid like a mofo doing door to door sales. And these women are not shy about it either...the must be some fantasy women have about a random stranger going door to door person showing up and railing them senseless or something...

And after seeing their husbands a few times who are coming home looking like a fat slob, compared to them being in shape and still good looking I can see why. Probably tired of having some fat dude breathing heavy on them for 5 minutes, exhausting himself, and then rolling over and snoring all night. I am telling you 90% of married women are not getting fvcked right and that is a big factor in why they want that D...

 

[Skyline]

I'm interested in this. In terms of social skills, before I had ever gotten a job vs. when I did have one, I got a ton better with people afterwards. I've always considered myself naturally charismatic, but I really got a better feel after having to socialize with everyone all the time.

This seems like a very great learning experience. Any tips on how / where to start out?

I was planning on starting a sales career in selling cars but that requires experience. The next place I was looking at was getting a job at a cell phone carrier store selling phones/contracts.

The average salesman selling phones makes almost $60k a year, pretty damn good. Plus it's unlikely they will fire you for not selling anything since selling phones isn't seen as a sales job to the general public.

 

[El Payaso]

I did door to door sales selling cable and internet services when I was in college. It does help you get better at talking to people but financially, it wasn't a great experience.

Factoring in the cost of gas, wear and tear and vehicle maintenance, it didn't make financial sense to me.

Another downside is you are usually only paid straight commission. There's no benefits, 401k, profit sharing etc. Just commission so ultimately the paycheck falls on you.

A lot of D2D sales jobs also employ pyramid style tactics. Your managers/supervisors take a cut out of your commission. After a while, you start to feel like some kind of cheap prostitute being pimped out.

All that being said, D2D can be good depending if you work for a very good company selling very good products.

 

[marmel75]

I did door to door sales selling cable and internet services when I was in college. It does help you get better at talking to people but financially, it wasn't a great experience.

Factoring in the cost of gas, wear and tear and vehicle maintenance, it didn't make financial sense to me.

Another downside is you are usually only paid straight commission. There's no benefits, 401k, profit sharing etc. Just commission so ultimately the paycheck falls on you.

A lot of D2D sales jobs also employ pyramid style tactics. Your managers/supervisors take a cut out of your commission. After a while, you start to feel like some kind of cheap prostitute being pimped out.

All that being said, D2D can be good depending if you work for a very good company selling very good products.

Did you work for the cable company directly or did you work for a subcontractor? Because I work directly for the cable company and I can tell you it's pretty lucrative.

 

[El Payaso]

Did you work for the cable company directly or did you work for a subcontractor? Because I work directly for the cable company and I can tell you it's pretty lucrative.

I've worked for both a subcontractor (AT&T) and directly with Comcast. Comcast was a better experience but they micromanaged like crazy. What company do you work for?

 

[marmel75]

I've worked for both a subcontractor (AT&T) and directly with Comcast. Comcast was a better experience but they micromanaged like crazy. What company do you work for?

Time warner

 

[zinc4]

I'm interested in this. In terms of social skills, before I had ever gotten a job vs. when I did have one, I got a ton better with people afterwards. I've always considered myself naturally charismatic, but I really got a better feel after having to socialize with everyone all the time.

This seems like a very great learning experience. Any tips on how / where to start out?

Search either life insurance or credit card processing sales.

Both are tough, but if you are good can make a ton of money, especially life insurance.

One sale can earn you as much as $1,500 upfront, next day commission direct deposited into your bank account if you find a decent company. You will need to take a course and a state exam, though, but not that difficult.

My brother is banking in over $150,000 a year working life insurance only two days a week. He's pretty good at it though, and has been doing it for years.

I can pull in about 7,000-8,000 a month pretty easily myself from these type jobs...I have a decent amount of sales experience, though.

Just made $800 commission on a sale today that took all of about 45 minutes to complete.

 

[zinc4]

Yeah but bro the pay is $hit. I bet you earn at best an average salary but more likely below it. This is one of th reasons why people are not queuing up to do such jobs.

You earn a lot if you are good...sky is the limit...and nothing if you suck or don't try.

That's what's so great about cold call sales. It's completely up to you. Anyone can get started with it, but few truly succeed at it.

 

[zonn]

Search either life insurance or credit card processing sales.

Both are tough, but if you are good can make a ton of money, especially life insurance.

One sale can earn you as much as $1,500 upfront, next day commission direct deposited into your bank account if you find a decent company. You will need to take a course and a state exam, though, but not that difficult.

My brother is banking in over $150,000 a year working life insurance only two days a week. He's pretty good at it though, and has been doing it for years.

I can pull in about 7,000-8,000 a month pretty easily myself from these type jobs...I have a decent amount of sales experience, though.

Just made $800 commission on a sale today that took all of about 45 minutes to complete.

 

[zonn]

You earn a lot if you are good...sky is the limit...and nothing if you suck or don't try.

That's what's so great about cold call sales. It's completely up to you. Anyone can get started with it, but few truly succeed at it.

What a load of rubbish. I am sorry but your idea of "big money" is peanuts to some people. So you earn 7 to 8 thousand a month and think you are "rich"? Come on bro. You have low standards, I mean it sincerely.

Does your brother earn $150,000 working two days a weeks through door to door sales? I suspect not.

I have experience of D2D sales, know others who have done this type of job. And really if you want to earn big bucks this is not really the place to be. My opinion of big bucks is at least $150,000 a year minimum. I knew a guy who did $120,000 a year through D2D but he lied and scammed people. He was a a one off. Like something like 1 in 100 in that profession.

 

[zonn]

1. You earn a lot if you are good...sky is the limit....

Bull$hit my friend.

 

[zinc4]

What a load of rubbish. I am sorry but your idea of "big money" is peanuts to some people. So you earn 7 to 8 thousand a month and think you are "rich"? Come on bro. You have low standards, I mean it sincerely.

Does your brother earn $150,000 working two days a weeks through door to door sales? I suspect not.

I have experience of D2D sales, know others who have done this type of job. And really if you want to earn big bucks this is not really the place to be. My opinion of big bucks is at least $150,000 a year minimum. I knew a guy who did $120,000 a year through D2D but he lied and scammed people. He was a a one off. Like something like 1 in 100 in that profession.

For a position that will accept anyone despite their experience or qualifications, that is a lot..especially for students making money on the side.

My brother is a hell of a salesman, he's surpassed that number several times. He's extremely pushy and aggressive, but he gets those numbers frequently.

And credit card processing, my current boss is logging in well over half a million a year on residuals from strictly business to business over the course of 13 years. I've seen plenty of his bank statements that prove it.

 

[zonn]

For a position that will accept anyone despite their experience or qualifications, that is a lot..especially for students making money on the side.

My brother is a hell of a salesman, he's surpassed that number several times. He's extremely pushy and aggressive, but he gets those numbers frequently.

And credit card processing, my current boss is logging in well over half a million a year on residuals from strictly business to business over the course of 13 years. I've seen plenty of his bank statements that prove it.

Yeah they'll take anyone on especially if its self employment and they don't have to pay a salary. All the risk is on the side of the "employee" - if he don't sell he earns nothing and there is no loss to the "business".

I am not in the USA so don't know that the market is like over there, I am in the UK. B2B is a slightly different beast to B2C. There are loads of jobs where you you walk into a shop and try to sell them something (i.e. B2B) but really most of these jobs (like 99%) don't pay a great deal (By great I mean $150,000 or over). Residual income coming from sales you made years ago is not too common but nice if you can get it.

Does your brother to residential door to door or B2B?