Don't We All Have SOME Responsibility?

[metalwater]

If u hv a dog, whom u loved, suddenly loses its ability to walk, would you love it any lesser?

If u hv a girlfriend, whom you loved deeply, suddenly loses her ability to work, would you love her lesser?

But if u hv lost ur ability to work or bring food to the table, how long do you think ur girlfriend will stay with you?

Don't be delusional like most men.

the wrong example for the girlfriend, whom you loved deeply, suddenly she has sex with other men, will you love her less?

 

[Spaz]

the wrong example for the girlfriend, whom you loved deeply, suddenly she has sex with other men, will you love her less?

Unconditionally = within the ambit of what a relationship is or should be.

 

[Desdinova]

I find it very hard to believe that a woman having sex with one man automatically ruins her for future loyalty or the possibility of being a good partner in the future. This is the "you have to marry a virgin bride" view for her to be a good wife/mother/partner etc. What has lead you to this conclusion? Because I have several examples I could give you where a woman who wasn't a virgin on her marriage day turned into a great wife/LTR partner.

I used to know of several examples of non-virgin women who were great wives. Guess what? They all got divorced. The only ones that have stayed together are the ones who have been with each other since high school.

You can doubt me all you want. Feel free to marry a "great woman" who has a few notches in her bedpost. After seeing how lousy these "great women" have treated not only myself but the men who date them, I'll certainly pass. Women who are naive and inexperienced are much more likely to stick with you.

 

[Spaz]

And I say we shouldn't. At least that's how I operate. A man "can" do a lot of stupid things, as I'm sure you know from reading this forum.

On hindsight, you might be right, a subset of men can't, such as urself and those normally involves men with imbalance IQ vs EQ.

Too rational minded.

 

[Spaz]

I used to know of several examples of non-virgin women who were great wives. Guess what? They all got divorced. The only ones that have stayed together are the ones who have been with each other since high school.

You can doubt me all you want. Feel free to marry a "great woman" who has a few notches in her bedpost. After seeing how lousy these "great women" have treated not only myself but the men who date them, I'll certainly pass. Women who are naive and inexperienced are much more likely to stick with you.

Most likely yes.

The probability would certainly be higher.

 

[Spaz]

Well maybe you are right - if you are more emotional than rational, you're could be a giver who attempts unconditional love. My reality is that self-respect comes first. I believe in more of a natural balance between two parties.

BTW you should lose the name calling and labeling; your arguments would be more compelling without them, and you know it doesn't work on me.

Well then, u hv been trained well by Spaz haven't you?

At least now, u r not one of the many here who would cry out the word "insult" and start seeking justice from the mods.

Strong mental fortitude would protect you from being continually manipulated by women, they do it by pushing ur buttons, keep practicing it Sam.

 

[user43770]

No we aren't the same as women.

We men can love women, children and even our dogs unconditionally.

Whilst women will conditionally love us only if we r able to provide.

Don't be delusional to think otherwise.

Women CAN love children and pets unconditionally.

But yeah, they can't love men the same way.

A man has to develop some calluses on his way through life!

Are women crazy and disloyal? Absolutely.

Does that mean you shouldn't get some calluses on your hands? Up to you.

The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything.

- Nietzsche