"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Don't get married

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Almost 50% of marriages end in divorce.

A failed marriage and subsequent divorce is a huge burden on men. Alimony and child support payments are astronomical.

Yet, men continue to get married all the time, even though it has a coin-flip chance of ruining their lives. It seems ridiculous, and it is!

If you don't understand, ask yourself this: would you take a "happy pill" if 50% of the time it would make your life a living hell? Didn't think so.

The evidence says marriages fail half the time, so listen to the evidence - not your heart!

Don't get married.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Luveno said:
Almost 50% of approaches end in rejection.

A failed approach and subsequent low self esteem is a huge burden on men. Self help books and therapy payments are astronomical.

Yet, men continue to cold approach all the time, even though it has a coin-flip chance of ruining their lives. It seems ridiculous, and it is!

If you don't understand, ask yourself this: would you take a "happy pill" if 50% of the time it would make your life a living hell? Didn't think so.

The evidence says approaches fail half the time, so listen to the evidence - not your heart!

Don't cold approach.
Sounds silly, no?
 

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50% of approaches end in rejection. Does that mean that one should not get married because 50% of marriages end in divorce?
Sounds like somebody has had a bad experience in regards to the subject of marriage. ;)
 

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What's funny is if you don't get married and have children out of wedlock then there is a **** ton of money to the mom. So you're still gonna have fork out money. Unless you say don't have children and then the human species doesn't survive.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The difference between a cold approach and marriage is that failing a cold approach leaves you with no less than what you started, except maybe a bruised ego.

A failed marriage leaves you with alimony.

The risks of monetary losses are too great. Don't do it.
 

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Sounds silly, no?
Lame. Apples and oranges. To put
that in perspective, my last failed approach
did not involve hiring lawyers, mediators, or visiting
the beautiful county courthouse in downtown
L.A. :nervous:
 

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What alot of you have to realize is marriage won't change anything !!
If you love someone and they change over time for the worst, it would be much healthier to have the option to leave a potentially toxic relationship.

If marriage doesn't change how strongly your love is for someone why take an unnecessary risk ?

You can still LOVE a woman with or without marriage !

Not marrying a woman is a great test to see if she really loves YOU, or the IDEA of marriage (and the fact that she can get half your stuff).
 

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What's funny is if you don't get married and have children out of wedlock then there is a **** ton of money to the mom. So you're still gonna have fork out money. Unless you say don't have children and then the human species doesn't survive.
32 years old and you still haven't used your passport yet. sad. seriously, you all need to learn that it is a really big world.
 

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32 years old and you still haven't used your passport yet. sad. seriously, you all need to learn that it is a really big world.
Wow you're cool with assumptions
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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My question is outta that 50% that stay together how any are together because the guy dosent wanna pay child support and alimony, the mom wants to hold the family together and dosent wanna be a single mom, neither party dosent want to be single again because of there age and they think it would be hard to find another mate

Of the top of my head and from people i know who are married it would come down to this

100% =all marriages
50% divorce
20% are unhappy but they stay together for social-economic reasons
30% have a normal happy marriage

If you get married you have a 30% chance of it being successful

UM I DONT THINK I LIKE THOSE ODDS..But one can never say never
 

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insidious said:
Lame. Apples and oranges. To put
that in perspective, my last failed approach
did not involve hiring lawyers, mediators, or visiting
the beautiful county courthouse in downtown
L.A. :nervous:
Brilliantly put.
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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Most people get married for the wrong reasons. Or they jump into marriage way too quick. Which is why the marriage fails. Sometimes sh!t just happens in a marriage years down the road.

There is nothing wrong with getting married. Just chose wisely when the time is right and that the girl you pick is right for you!
 

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I was married seven years. My wife divorced me, but now keeps calling and wanting me back. She called tonight, left a voicemail crying about a guy dumping her. I could easily move to her tropical island country and live off her rich family...had she not gained that pesky extra 100 pounds or so.

I have found women to actually be attracted to my being divorced. They instantly start wondering about my ex-wife and comparing themselves to her. A female friend once said that being divorced at least shows that one woman valued you enough to marry you. It pushes the female catty, competitive buttons.

Having kids is a much bigger decision that getting married. My marriage cost a hundred bucks at the courthouse, and I think my ex-wife spent about five hundred for the divorce, all of which she paid for. Most divorces, especially the ones shorter in duration, do not involve alimony. Children change everything. Then you get child support and bitter custody battles - those are the big costs in expensive divorces.
 
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Most divorces, especially the ones shorter in duration, do not involve alimony. Children change everything. Then you get child support and bitter custody battles - those are the big costs in expensive divorces.

So if they were married 5 years and have no kids, and the guy cheats. Then she divorces him the guy doesn't have to pay anything?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Typically not, especially if she had a job. If the guy was rich, and she was his kept wife, then maybe, but that scenario is rare. Half of the appreciation of the estate during the marriage would be hers, but most people don't have much money to worry about.
 

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This forum is really depressing sometimes.. Always so negative.

I do not want to get married any time soon, but I do know that I am not afraid of it like it seems a lot of people here are.
 

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This is silly, many people marry out of insecurities such as not wanting to grow old alone, so theres no suprise those sort of marriages fail. But were the guys that if we was to get married, it would be for the right reasons. Anyway, the statistics show that 3 out of 5 marriages are successful, which means theres only 40% failure rate.
 

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just so suave said:
This is silly, many people marry out of insecurities such as not wanting to grow old alone, so theres no suprise those sort of marriages fail. But were the guys that if we was to get married, it would be for the right reasons. Anyway, the statistics show that 3 out of 5 marriages are successful, which means theres only 40% failure rate.

And of those 60% that survive, how many are happy? My guess is under 50%. Staying together when you are unhappy is not consisered a succesful marriage in my books. Cheers!
 

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just so suave said:
This is silly, many people marry out of insecurities such as not wanting to grow old alone, so theres no suprise those sort of marriages fail. But were the guys that if we was to get married, it would be for the right reasons. Anyway, the statistics show that 3 out of 5 marriages are successful, which means theres only 40% failure rate.
This may be true in other parts of the world, but in the US and Canada, its near 50%. In Sweden is higher than 50%
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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