"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Don Juan Tiers

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Hey guys,

I have been considering creating a new website containing a course very similar to the "Boot Camp", but in more bite size chunks (similar to the "Player Guide" on Fast Seduction). A basic concept is here:

http://www.nick-hill.com/djtiers/website.php

Please let me know if the site will be useful when completed. If not, I'll scrap the idea. It only took me an hour to make anyway - and so far, only the first section's "acronyms" page is working.

Nick
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Looks like a great idea man. I think the progression of the tiers should not be set in stone though, personally I've been learning things a little differently than that flow suggests. I think maybe teir 4 could be closing skills though. Since at that point the aspiring don juan wouldn't be skilled enough to go through advanced convos, he can exit a set quickly and gracefully.
 

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And then we'll have the fights over what is classified as Tier 7 vs Tier 8..and so on and so forth.
Really, these should be the Catagories.

The stupid simple guide exclusively for retards like you, for the following types:
1. Complete dumbassed newbies.

2. The cluster-fvck of noobs with reading experience and ZERO skills, or mountains of failure, or the numb-nuts that has no social skills past a keyboard (or the end of his nose). Might even be a fallen guy, heavily damaged.

3. The guy that can walk the talk, but can't talk the walk (using the material with varying effect, but too inexperienced to be writing up anything about it escept FRs.)

4. The guy that can both walk, talk, talk and walk (he's got some field experience, and he's getting plates spinning, not letting defeat get in the way of the next girl, and can advise with some solidness)

5. The guy that creates the talk, and runs the walk. (Advanced enough to generate his own variations of basic skills, and has solid game)

and finally...

6. The pro man-ho that rewrites the book of control. (seduction)?

Why? Because there's so much advanced stuff, so much variation on how to do things at a higher level, that really, it's the top 2 that can master it, not Tier 5 when there's 4 more to climb. And again, a lot of material, such as the stupid guy guide to talking, the IRSMRT rulebook to conversation, How to rebuild yourself from A-Z and 1-3, and other BASIC building blocks live in the first 3 realms.

The rest of it, C&F, Flirting, Running an approach properly (as compared to blind firing), advanced mindset geared towards the prize, not letting her have control, knowing what to say to get what you want, games, club pickup, all of the mid-game stuff, well, that's for the middle. There's no real level requirement to have 6 million levels to define how to do things, when all this really is is a beginner, an average, intermediate and a advanced class of a DJ.

My 2 cents though. Equal weight to another 2 cents of someone elses.
 

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Create Reality said:
Looks like a great idea man. I think the progression of the tiers should not be set in stone though, personally I've been learning things a little differently than that flow suggests. I think maybe teir 4 could be closing skills though. Since at that point the aspiring don juan wouldn't be skilled enough to go through advanced convos, he can exit a set quickly and gracefully.
Sounds good, I will work on that.

Nick
 

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Docs said:
Really, these should be the Catagories.
Thanks Docs, I will consider that although it will compress the Tiers leaving more (four?) future tiers. Is that what you had in mind?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Docs, there's no difference between "1" and "2". Experience is the only deciding factor in how "Don Juan" someone is.

Any idiot can recite material.
 

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Nick - There shouldn't be tiers within a catagory, just because it'd be almost like 'restricting' material, when if you're relatively competant, you probably can grasp the concept. No need to do You are an average 1, average 2, average 3, when it's just minor technique changes.

Squirrels -
1. Complete dumbassed newbies.

2. The cluster-fvck of noobs with reading experience and ZERO skills, or mountains of failure, or the numb-nuts that has no social skills past a keyboard (or the end of his nose). Might even be a fallen guy, heavily damaged.
I think newbie, and reading experience are two completely seperate things.

That's why mindset and..improvng yourself, anything that prepares you for greater things are newbie topics, and starting to use that knowledge falls into the no skill/incompetant ones.

And, that's why 3 ...
3. The guy that can walk the talk, but can't talk the walk (using the material with varying effect, but too inexperienced to be writing up anything about it escept FRs.)
... is slightly above that of the no skill ones. These guys have tried, but just have varying results, or it's hit or miss, or whatever...

I could go on, but those sections make sense to me, and it doesn't compact a whole ton of pickup material into the newbie section, and the middle sections aren't compacted with material that should have been covered alright and at the same time, with material that requires those skills that you are just reading about now? Yeah.
 

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I have updated the front page to list where I believe each of the DJ concepts fit. I invite you to take a look and respond here with advice / concepts I've missed / suggestions...etc.

Nick
 

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you need to cite sources that support the theory of patterning, NLP, Social proof and neg hits that can back up that they actualy work. (they actually dont! and are BS)

I think its wrong to try to teach techniques and pass them off as "actually works" when they really dont.

Another criticism is that this seems like another ASF clone. Absolutely nothing original about this website.
 

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Docs said:
Nick - There shouldn't be tiers within a catagory, just because it'd be almost like 'restricting' material, when if you're relatively competant, you probably can grasp the concept. No need to do You are an average 1, average 2, average 3, when it's just minor technique changes.

Squirrels -

I think newbie, and reading experience are two completely seperate things.

That's why mindset and..improvng yourself, anything that prepares you for greater things are newbie topics, and starting to use that knowledge falls into the no skill/incompetant ones.

And, that's why 3 ... ... is slightly above that of the no skill ones. These guys have tried, but just have varying results, or it's hit or miss, or whatever...

I could go on, but those sections make sense to me, and it doesn't compact a whole ton of pickup material into the newbie section, and the middle sections aren't compacted with material that should have been covered alright and at the same time, with material that requires those skills that you are just reading about now? Yeah.
Reading experience is self-fellating bullsh!t.

Reading is only a guide to your experential learning. It gives you actions and ideas you can try out. A man who has read all the answers but applies none of them is no better off than a man who has done neither. Except in his own head.

Don't kid yourself. I've made that mistake.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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squirrels said:
Reading experience is self-fellating bullsh!t.

Reading is only a guide to your experential learning. It gives you actions and ideas you can try out. A man who has read all the answers but applies none of them is no better off than a man who has done neither. Except in his own head.

Don't kid yourself. I've made that mistake.
Note that in the original entry, I said:
The cluster-fvck of noobs with reading experience and ZERO skills
Just above the level of stupid by innocence, the newbie.

Trust me, I also knew the effects of knowledge with no punching bag.
 

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Looking forward to the completed tiers, I will definitely try to complete them!
 
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