"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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fieryheart

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Hey,

This might be long, bear with me. I'm new. Nice to meet you all. I need an answer for a question and discuss potential solutions with the more experienced Don Juans but i'm willing to listen from all perspectives.

I'm not really interested in women anymore, its just become a game to amuse myself. I find myself needing more actual intimacy rather than just gaming girls. I've been able to attract several attractive women, my last being a decent looking Brazillian-russian with a nice ass. I've just become mopey how women are so easily played, dress nice, have a nice chest/body and play the charismatic suave bad boy and boom, attention. 9/10ths of the work is done if you can pull a woman by your body alone.

Anyway, what I need help with is, some fresh perspective on this. I want, need and crave intimacy but I dont want it from girls that i've gamed, getting girls is easy enough, but getting a genuine catch seems to be the issue. I want a girl that whose personality I can appreciate but alot of them seem to be shallow *****es. Not that I dont mind shallows ****s but, I want something more. I friendzoned this girl that I thought I was actually into but I was turned off that she liked the persona rather than me itself. I dont really know guys? Has anyone been through this antipathy, help me.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Legday

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i know how you feel except for that i havent kissed a girl before; do you lift? just wondering.

i wish i had a girl with a great personality too brah
 

fieryheart

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Yes, I used to lift relatively advanced but that hadnt gotten me girls at first. So I realized that and I put lifiting on the backburner a bit and concentrated on practicing how to get better at talking to girls, and more importantly, have FUN with yourself. Practice with the ugly ones at first and build your confidence, once you're relatively confident, make it an every day thing and apply it to your every day life every day. Burn this into the back of your mind, you canNOT, and WILL not get a girl until you put your heart on the line and be able to talk, chat and have fun with them and ask for their number.

As for lifting I do deads, atg squats, bench, supersets of chinup,bicep curls and other shiz.
 

GotED?

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I think what your dilemma is actually just finding 'maturity' and 'wisdom' with age.

The depth of emotions and intimacy shared with a woman is not something you can easily find.

There's plenty of men on SS here who values intimacy greatly vs. the other side who just wants to pump & dump.

In the end, it just depends on what type of soul and man you are and what you are ready for in life as well.

Enjoy what you NEED, not necessarily what you WANT.

Exodus
 

CaptainSaveAh0

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Maybe you aren't looking in the right places. Where do you usually meet girls? I go out clubbing a lot so that definitely isn't the place I am going to find quality woman. If you go to school try meeting woman there. I am like you, I prefer intimacy rather than just game a girl and fvck nd chuck her. Quality woman are hard to come by, but they do exist... Keep looking
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Johnny Alias

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You need to meet them through mutual friends. I've often found this is the best way to go. Weeds out some of the crazies. Also, how old are you?

Any place can be considered corrupted. Truly. Churchgoer, schoolteacher... this is not to say that they aren't good women, but if a guy tells you not to go out with ANY women who do these things he's speaking from personal experience.

Clubs are a no though. Bars... eh... probably not good either unless you meet a gal that is keeping her sh1t together and not getting wasted.

If I were you I'd join some physical activities like volleyball, kickboxing, etc. Yoga is a good one as well. You know the girl takes care of herself, PROBABLY doesn't drink as much, and will likely continue to do these activities in the future.

It makes a difference. Watch out for the girls obviously trying to please you with doing any of the GOOD stuff as a one off. My ex hiked a 14er with me... and then *****ed about her knee hurting for a year. Just not a very active person. Look for good habits and you might have a good foundation.
 

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fieryheart said:
I want a girl that whose personality I can appreciate but alot of them seem to be shallow *****es.
If you met a girl with a great personality but was only a 5/10 body on your scale would you be into her? And I mean that as a literal question too.
 

Johnny Alias

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One other thing I have to ask... why is this a crisis? Why can't you just keep spinning plates and pay attention to warning signs until you find a good one?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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