"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Got a text from a chick today that I've been half a$$edly gaming. Only took her out once about 3 weeks ago (was good date) and asked her for drinks the next week. Got a "maybe" reply so I haven't really been trying again lately, just a few texts here and there.

Anyway, text reads...

Who sexy and fine? You! Who cute? You! Who fly? You! Who lying? Me! LOL jk ..Pass it on!!


This is suppose to be a forward I assume, but I've never received any forwards from her ever. I just sent a "LOL good *hit!" reply to her letting her know I thought it was funny.

Anyone think there's any hidden meaning behind this?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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you're over analyzing the situation.....

The correct handling of the situation would have been this

Her:Who sexy and fine? You! Who cute? You! Who fly? You! Who lying? Me! LOL jk ..Pass it on!!

You:Look If you're interested in me that much you can just go ahead and say so, no need to try and hint it with silly messages ;)
 

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Sp1kez said:
you're over analyzing the situation.....

The correct handling of the situation would have been this

Her:Who sexy and fine? You! Who cute? You! Who fly? You! Who lying? Me! LOL jk ..Pass it on!!

You:Look If you're interested in me that much you can just go ahead and say so, no need to try and hint it with silly messages ;)
that reply would have been a lot worse than the one I sent. She's hardly initiated anything with me so saying what you did would have been foolish.

I'm just wondering why would she send stupid sh*t like this to me? I've pretty much given up on trying my hardest on getting her to fvck, but if there's a spark ..it's whatever.
 

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ZhaoYun said:
that reply would have been a lot worse than the one I sent. She's hardly initiated anything with me so saying what you did would have been foolish.

I'm just wondering why would she send stupid sh*t like this to me? I've pretty much given up on trying my hardest on getting her to fvck, but if there's a spark ..it's whatever.
dude....your reply was terrible. you left no room for her to reply to anything nor was it funny. Yours was simply a reaction to her stupid text.

Spikes on the otherhand left it openended i.e. a chance for her to come back with another comeback and it was playful and funny.

I would've definitely replied with something along the lines of Sp1ke. Then you can see if she responds again and try to get a mini-rapport going and then escalate to the phone and ask her out on another date once you get her laughing at your text messages.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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hey, idiots, its a forward. You're supossed to pass it on. Not reply to it.
I get 5 of those hourly. They are meaningless. Just like this thread.
 

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crazymedstudent said:
dude....your reply was terrible. you left no room for her to reply to anything nor was it funny. Yours was simply a reaction to her stupid text.

Sp1kes on the otherhand left it openended i.e. a chance for her to come back with another comeback and it was playful and funny.

I would've definitely replied with something along the lines of Sp1ke. Then you can see if she responds again and try to get a mini-rapport going and then escalate to the phone and ask her out on another date once you get her laughing at your text messages.
Spikes reply is too arrogant and would be stupid to do since she set it up like a forward. Her response would tell me it was just a forward.

So yeah, trying to do something to get a kick out of her is dumb and would only show that I seek her attention which isn't good if she isn't really initiating anything. Didn't you read what I mentioned about her?

I replied cause I felt like it and feel it's better then to reply then have her thinking she upset me or something. I was just trying to see if something like this happened to other people. This chick hasn't ever sent me a forward and I know it wasn't a real forward since it didn't have that stupid FWD:FWD: bvll**** across the subject.
 

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I'd reply, "WTF is this ****? That was retarded. Don't ever send me that sh1t again."

Someone sent me a MMS thing with sparkly sh1t and music and I replied "WTF?"

I hate that sh1t.
 

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*facepalm*

i'm wondering if there are any actual DJ's still here..

or is it just the blind leading the blind through traffic
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ZhaoYun said:
This is suppose to be a forward I assume, but I've never received any forwards from her ever. I just sent a "LOL good *hit!" reply to her letting her know I thought it was funny.

Anyone think there's any hidden meaning behind this?
Yep. You're now her girl-friend, else she wouldn't put you on the girly text/email fwd list.
 

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christz said:
*facepalm*

i'm wondering if there are any actual DJ's still here..

or is it just the blind leading the blind through traffic
Mind elaborating?

Or is it a typical "text messages are useless" thing.
 

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ZhaoYun said:
Mind elaborating?

Or is it a typical "text messages are useless" thing.
you got a forward guy, nothing more. you and about 12 other guys on her phonebook probably got that message.
 

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yeah - 12 guys sounds about right for a skank like her
Ha. Dont be mad at her. Be mad at yourself for being a wussbag.

"skanks are the ones that give it up to everyone except me"
famous chinese proverb.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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r0cky said:
Ha. Dont be mad at her. Be mad at yourself for being a wussbag.

"skanks are the ones that give it up to everyone except me"
famous chinese proverb.
Wussbag?

Ha. You don't know the whole story r0cky. This chick had already given me head and I guess since I didn't bother getting up with her all of the time after that she thought I was just about one thing.

Responding with some bullsh*t line is stupid and forreal, I don't care that much. Not gonna lie it'd be nice to get my d!ck sucked again. She could be well trained.

O well
 
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why did you take her out on a date, instead of staying in with her and f*cking her brains out? Are you happy with the money you wasted taking this useless chick out?
 

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Zhayoun is a young DJ apprentice, let him make his mistakes and learn from them, he obviously can't see the wisdom I have bestowed upon him by giving him a good reply example.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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