Does This Stuff Really Work?

[Bokanovsky]

...but it seems so many people here or even coaches cant keep a women long term?

Whats up with that?

Are you familiar with the adage: "Those who teach, can't do"?

 

[Ray S]

I know the advice does work to get girls interested or date successfully...but it seems so many people here or even coaches cant keep a women long term?

Whats up with that?

Most don't want the same women long term

 

[zekko]

I know the advice does work to get girls interested or date successfully...but it seems so many people here or even coaches cant keep a women long term?

Most seduction material is built around a short term mating strategy. Supposedly a lot of the early gurus studied what was effective for "naturals" - who were basically "players", or guys who were able to get a lot of women - again, for short term mating strategy.

In fact, since most gurus live a player type lifestyle, they end up teaching that, and even bias their material toward the idea that women are only really attracted to players (themselves).

Here's the thing, if you want to keep a girl around: You have to have actual value. That's where the self improvement advice is important. Pickup gurus teach you how to fake value, how to trick girls into thinking you have value. It doesn't matter that you don't really have that value, because you'll be gone by the time they figure it out. If you want to keep women, you actually have to build that value, not just fake it.