prachanter
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He seems to switch back and forth during his simulated converations from a nerdy smartass to a gay hypnotist. Does that stuff really work?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Does Ross Jerrfies' Speed Seduction really work?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
In short...no, it's a scam with a lot of clever and convincing theory behind it.
I got into this stuff heavily a while ago and freaked out a lot of girls. Basically, just look at his stuff and ask whether it would work on you? If not, then don't expect it to work on anyone else.
I would advise that you avoid this stuff like the plague.
I got into this stuff heavily a while ago and freaked out a lot of girls. Basically, just look at his stuff and ask whether it would work on you? If not, then don't expect it to work on anyone else.
I would advise that you avoid this stuff like the plague.
I disagree with Jariel wholeheartedly. The point is not whether Ross J's stuff works but whether or not YOU can make it work for you. There are plenty of gems to take away from Ross J.'s SS especially in the concept of how to talk more and engage them in very interesting conversation. You can also lay the foundation out subtly for what you want. He goes over valuable body language tips, speech, etc. Not everything by him works but give the guy a break he's been doing it since 1994 and a lot of his older material is crap but 2000-2007 he has put out some decent stuff that has worked for me out in the field tried and tested.
sandman6991
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It depends on your personality...I could NEVER make that work...and I'm not sold that anyone can.
If I were a woman...that **** would TOTALLY freak me out...and you know what...I'm betting they think the same thing
If I were a woman...that **** would TOTALLY freak me out...and you know what...I'm betting they think the same thing
You could never make what work? Ross has thousands of pieces of material floating around, if you are going to say you could never make it work I am guessing you really haven't read much of his work at all. Some of his "visualize the colorful energy ball" type stuff is far-fetched for many but there are many conversational skills he helps with that are quality imo.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
The Juan and only
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I'm with Jariel, it's absolute baloney. At the very least, don't ever buy anything of his.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I say try it to see whether it fits.
If you don't have super confidence, no method will work immediately. But as long as you don't give up approaching, any method will do you good. If any particular method will motivate you to approach more, adopt it. Not because it will get you more girls, cuz it won't! But because it motivates you to approach more.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I wouldn't say that any method would work for everyone. The methods are as unique as the guy implementing them. There are some guys in the forum (myself included) who I would never suggest using Gunwich just because it's not congruent with their personality.lyamdb said:
prachanter
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What's the Gunwich method?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
The Juan and only
Master Don Juan
In not so many words, it's about getting in touch with your masculinity, being overtly sexual, and pretty much cavemaning the whole pickup.
I agree with Francisco in that you need a style congruent with your personality. But I also tend to think that you shouldn't pay too much attention to how all these "gurus" live their lives. Be prepared to find the source of your own sexual power, acquire some maturity and experience, and you'll be fine.
I agree with Francisco in that you need a style congruent with your personality. But I also tend to think that you shouldn't pay too much attention to how all these "gurus" live their lives. Be prepared to find the source of your own sexual power, acquire some maturity and experience, and you'll be fine.
Gangster Of Love
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The techniques/systems are only as good/effective as the guy implementing them.