prachanter
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He seems to switch back and forth during his simulated converations from a nerdy smartass to a gay hypnotist. Does that stuff really work?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Does Ross Jerrfies' Speed Seduction really work?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
In short...no, it's a scam with a lot of clever and convincing theory behind it.
I got into this stuff heavily a while ago and freaked out a lot of girls. Basically, just look at his stuff and ask whether it would work on you? If not, then don't expect it to work on anyone else.
I would advise that you avoid this stuff like the plague.
I got into this stuff heavily a while ago and freaked out a lot of girls. Basically, just look at his stuff and ask whether it would work on you? If not, then don't expect it to work on anyone else.
I would advise that you avoid this stuff like the plague.
I disagree with Jariel wholeheartedly. The point is not whether Ross J's stuff works but whether or not YOU can make it work for you. There are plenty of gems to take away from Ross J.'s SS especially in the concept of how to talk more and engage them in very interesting conversation. You can also lay the foundation out subtly for what you want. He goes over valuable body language tips, speech, etc. Not everything by him works but give the guy a break he's been doing it since 1994 and a lot of his older material is crap but 2000-2007 he has put out some decent stuff that has worked for me out in the field tried and tested.
sandman6991
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It depends on your personality...I could NEVER make that work...and I'm not sold that anyone can.
If I were a woman...that **** would TOTALLY freak me out...and you know what...I'm betting they think the same thing
If I were a woman...that **** would TOTALLY freak me out...and you know what...I'm betting they think the same thing
You could never make what work? Ross has thousands of pieces of material floating around, if you are going to say you could never make it work I am guessing you really haven't read much of his work at all. Some of his "visualize the colorful energy ball" type stuff is far-fetched for many but there are many conversational skills he helps with that are quality imo.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
The Juan and only
Master Don Juan
I'm with Jariel, it's absolute baloney. At the very least, don't ever buy anything of his.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I say try it to see whether it fits.
If you don't have super confidence, no method will work immediately. But as long as you don't give up approaching, any method will do you good. If any particular method will motivate you to approach more, adopt it. Not because it will get you more girls, cuz it won't! But because it motivates you to approach more.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I wouldn't say that any method would work for everyone. The methods are as unique as the guy implementing them. There are some guys in the forum (myself included) who I would never suggest using Gunwich just because it's not congruent with their personality.lyamdb said:
prachanter
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What's the Gunwich method?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
The Juan and only
Master Don Juan
In not so many words, it's about getting in touch with your masculinity, being overtly sexual, and pretty much cavemaning the whole pickup.
I agree with Francisco in that you need a style congruent with your personality. But I also tend to think that you shouldn't pay too much attention to how all these "gurus" live their lives. Be prepared to find the source of your own sexual power, acquire some maturity and experience, and you'll be fine.
I agree with Francisco in that you need a style congruent with your personality. But I also tend to think that you shouldn't pay too much attention to how all these "gurus" live their lives. Be prepared to find the source of your own sexual power, acquire some maturity and experience, and you'll be fine.
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
The techniques/systems are only as good/effective as the guy implementing them.