"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Does PU actually work?

Bossman90

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I did well before the community with my own tricks. I haven't tried out much of PUA stuff. I guess my question is has anyone gone from trash to flash with hot girls(upper eschelon 7s on up)? And actually prospered from PU?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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VladPatton

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We don't particularly call what we preach here PU, but rather a way of dealing with girls without tricks, canned lines or ridiculous tactics that work on only one type of female. If you read around there is a ton of good info on improving yourself in order to improve your dating life. THAT works a lot better than any pick up scam.
 

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I don't use many routines but yeah, Pick up/Game definitely works

Your inner game and vibe are the most important weapons not the routines.
 

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There's been a hell of a difference in my life. Not specifically pick-up, but just the core concepts of self-improvement, confidence, and some of the basics to know what is going on an interaction.

Especially confidence; people will notice that. Routines are just useful addons for situations in which case you aren't positive on what to say, for when you need a bit of a fall-back and need to take the lead. They have a very useful place in what you do - they are very far from being the end-all of dealing with women.
 

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It provides free entertainment for the girls.

That's about it.

If she likes your looks, you don't need this stuff. If she doesn't like your looks, at best, you can delay the rejection 10+ minutes while her and her gfs give you a "female opinion."
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mike32ct said:
It provides free entertainment for the girls.

That's about it.

If she likes your looks, you don't need this stuff. If she doesn't like your looks, at best, you can delay the rejection 10+ minutes while her and her gfs give you a "female opinion."
So true lol. PUA mostly just gives guys a placebo effect and encourages playing the numbers game and honestly lowering of standards all in the name of a lay.

There are a few useful guidlines but for the most part anyone with some social intelligence and a little experience would've figured out for themself. The main thing is PUA just motivates guys to keep approaching and playing the numbers game and not get discouraged even in the face of rejections and social shaming from attempting pick up they may encounter.
 

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I agree with Stagger.

Getting guys to approach is a good thing. That part is good training wheels. But once you can approach and have decent conversations, you don't need it.

The other benefit is you can learn to think up your own "games" or topics to keep things fun and interesting.
 

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once again a thread about pick up where people are criticizing what they THINK pick up is and not what pick up actually is. pick up isnt the mystery method, that stuff is a punchline in the community. pick up is self actualization, being clear in your intent, strong tonality, posture, eye contact, indifference, viewing yourself as the prize, etc etc. yeah, that stuff NEEEEVER works on girls. :/
 

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oxford comma said:
pick up isnt the mystery method, that stuff is a punchline in the community. pick up is self actualization, being clear in your intent, strong tonality, posture, eye contact, indifference, viewing yourself as the prize, etc etc. yeah, that stuff NEEEEVER works on girls. :/
You're describing the RSD flavor of pickup. Nothing wrong with that, but there are different methods and different schools of thought. I'd agree that generally Mystery Method is considered outdated by most.

Forgetting all the tips, tricks, and routines, I would say that yes, pickup actually works. Because at the heart of it, the idea is to get out there and try. And if a girl isn't responding, you stay positive and keep improving and moving on to the next one until you find one that does. So by that definition, of course it will work.
 

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Pickup does work for the reasons listed above. It get's guys to approach girls with the belief that it is going to work and to ignore rejection if it happens. Doing that with a belief that a positive outcome is entirely possible often MAKES the outcome possible. That creates a great vibe to have when meeting women. Canned lines etc. are also good for helping you to understand that you can talk about anything (as long as it's positive). All in all if you continue doing pickup for validation of you as a man, it is a sad state of affairs. If you use it as a crutch to becoming comfortable with your value as a man and your selection of women it is a very good thing.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I ditto Mike32ct.

Your PUA tactics and game will not make you any more physically and financially attractive in the present time.
 

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hahahaha **** yeah pickup works

nothing like cold approaches. I love that stuff.

also helps you meet and evaluate lots of different kinds of people. sharpens the game, pickup does.

Im talking with a few girls I picked up at the current moment. its all in how you spin it.

they will be like "oh you were just doing pickup" and I'll be like "what, its a problem to talk to people that you think are interesting?"

and then thats the end of that conversation, and you still have some companionship. **** it eeeasy
 
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