"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Does PU actually work?

Bossman90

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I did well before the community with my own tricks. I haven't tried out much of PUA stuff. I guess my question is has anyone gone from trash to flash with hot girls(upper eschelon 7s on up)? And actually prospered from PU?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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VladPatton

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We don't particularly call what we preach here PU, but rather a way of dealing with girls without tricks, canned lines or ridiculous tactics that work on only one type of female. If you read around there is a ton of good info on improving yourself in order to improve your dating life. THAT works a lot better than any pick up scam.
 

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I don't use many routines but yeah, Pick up/Game definitely works

Your inner game and vibe are the most important weapons not the routines.
 

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There's been a hell of a difference in my life. Not specifically pick-up, but just the core concepts of self-improvement, confidence, and some of the basics to know what is going on an interaction.

Especially confidence; people will notice that. Routines are just useful addons for situations in which case you aren't positive on what to say, for when you need a bit of a fall-back and need to take the lead. They have a very useful place in what you do - they are very far from being the end-all of dealing with women.
 

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It provides free entertainment for the girls.

That's about it.

If she likes your looks, you don't need this stuff. If she doesn't like your looks, at best, you can delay the rejection 10+ minutes while her and her gfs give you a "female opinion."
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mike32ct said:
It provides free entertainment for the girls.

That's about it.

If she likes your looks, you don't need this stuff. If she doesn't like your looks, at best, you can delay the rejection 10+ minutes while her and her gfs give you a "female opinion."
So true lol. PUA mostly just gives guys a placebo effect and encourages playing the numbers game and honestly lowering of standards all in the name of a lay.

There are a few useful guidlines but for the most part anyone with some social intelligence and a little experience would've figured out for themself. The main thing is PUA just motivates guys to keep approaching and playing the numbers game and not get discouraged even in the face of rejections and social shaming from attempting pick up they may encounter.
 

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I agree with Stagger.

Getting guys to approach is a good thing. That part is good training wheels. But once you can approach and have decent conversations, you don't need it.

The other benefit is you can learn to think up your own "games" or topics to keep things fun and interesting.
 

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once again a thread about pick up where people are criticizing what they THINK pick up is and not what pick up actually is. pick up isnt the mystery method, that stuff is a punchline in the community. pick up is self actualization, being clear in your intent, strong tonality, posture, eye contact, indifference, viewing yourself as the prize, etc etc. yeah, that stuff NEEEEVER works on girls. :/
 

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oxford comma said:
pick up isnt the mystery method, that stuff is a punchline in the community. pick up is self actualization, being clear in your intent, strong tonality, posture, eye contact, indifference, viewing yourself as the prize, etc etc. yeah, that stuff NEEEEVER works on girls. :/
You're describing the RSD flavor of pickup. Nothing wrong with that, but there are different methods and different schools of thought. I'd agree that generally Mystery Method is considered outdated by most.

Forgetting all the tips, tricks, and routines, I would say that yes, pickup actually works. Because at the heart of it, the idea is to get out there and try. And if a girl isn't responding, you stay positive and keep improving and moving on to the next one until you find one that does. So by that definition, of course it will work.
 

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Pickup does work for the reasons listed above. It get's guys to approach girls with the belief that it is going to work and to ignore rejection if it happens. Doing that with a belief that a positive outcome is entirely possible often MAKES the outcome possible. That creates a great vibe to have when meeting women. Canned lines etc. are also good for helping you to understand that you can talk about anything (as long as it's positive). All in all if you continue doing pickup for validation of you as a man, it is a sad state of affairs. If you use it as a crutch to becoming comfortable with your value as a man and your selection of women it is a very good thing.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I ditto Mike32ct.

Your PUA tactics and game will not make you any more physically and financially attractive in the present time.
 

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hahahaha **** yeah pickup works

nothing like cold approaches. I love that stuff.

also helps you meet and evaluate lots of different kinds of people. sharpens the game, pickup does.

Im talking with a few girls I picked up at the current moment. its all in how you spin it.

they will be like "oh you were just doing pickup" and I'll be like "what, its a problem to talk to people that you think are interesting?"

and then thats the end of that conversation, and you still have some companionship. **** it eeeasy
 
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