"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Does PU actually work?

Bossman90

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I did well before the community with my own tricks. I haven't tried out much of PUA stuff. I guess my question is has anyone gone from trash to flash with hot girls(upper eschelon 7s on up)? And actually prospered from PU?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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VladPatton

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We don't particularly call what we preach here PU, but rather a way of dealing with girls without tricks, canned lines or ridiculous tactics that work on only one type of female. If you read around there is a ton of good info on improving yourself in order to improve your dating life. THAT works a lot better than any pick up scam.
 

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I don't use many routines but yeah, Pick up/Game definitely works

Your inner game and vibe are the most important weapons not the routines.
 

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There's been a hell of a difference in my life. Not specifically pick-up, but just the core concepts of self-improvement, confidence, and some of the basics to know what is going on an interaction.

Especially confidence; people will notice that. Routines are just useful addons for situations in which case you aren't positive on what to say, for when you need a bit of a fall-back and need to take the lead. They have a very useful place in what you do - they are very far from being the end-all of dealing with women.
 

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It provides free entertainment for the girls.

That's about it.

If she likes your looks, you don't need this stuff. If she doesn't like your looks, at best, you can delay the rejection 10+ minutes while her and her gfs give you a "female opinion."
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mike32ct said:
It provides free entertainment for the girls.

That's about it.

If she likes your looks, you don't need this stuff. If she doesn't like your looks, at best, you can delay the rejection 10+ minutes while her and her gfs give you a "female opinion."
So true lol. PUA mostly just gives guys a placebo effect and encourages playing the numbers game and honestly lowering of standards all in the name of a lay.

There are a few useful guidlines but for the most part anyone with some social intelligence and a little experience would've figured out for themself. The main thing is PUA just motivates guys to keep approaching and playing the numbers game and not get discouraged even in the face of rejections and social shaming from attempting pick up they may encounter.
 

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I agree with Stagger.

Getting guys to approach is a good thing. That part is good training wheels. But once you can approach and have decent conversations, you don't need it.

The other benefit is you can learn to think up your own "games" or topics to keep things fun and interesting.
 

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once again a thread about pick up where people are criticizing what they THINK pick up is and not what pick up actually is. pick up isnt the mystery method, that stuff is a punchline in the community. pick up is self actualization, being clear in your intent, strong tonality, posture, eye contact, indifference, viewing yourself as the prize, etc etc. yeah, that stuff NEEEEVER works on girls. :/
 

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oxford comma said:
pick up isnt the mystery method, that stuff is a punchline in the community. pick up is self actualization, being clear in your intent, strong tonality, posture, eye contact, indifference, viewing yourself as the prize, etc etc. yeah, that stuff NEEEEVER works on girls. :/
You're describing the RSD flavor of pickup. Nothing wrong with that, but there are different methods and different schools of thought. I'd agree that generally Mystery Method is considered outdated by most.

Forgetting all the tips, tricks, and routines, I would say that yes, pickup actually works. Because at the heart of it, the idea is to get out there and try. And if a girl isn't responding, you stay positive and keep improving and moving on to the next one until you find one that does. So by that definition, of course it will work.
 

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Pickup does work for the reasons listed above. It get's guys to approach girls with the belief that it is going to work and to ignore rejection if it happens. Doing that with a belief that a positive outcome is entirely possible often MAKES the outcome possible. That creates a great vibe to have when meeting women. Canned lines etc. are also good for helping you to understand that you can talk about anything (as long as it's positive). All in all if you continue doing pickup for validation of you as a man, it is a sad state of affairs. If you use it as a crutch to becoming comfortable with your value as a man and your selection of women it is a very good thing.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I ditto Mike32ct.

Your PUA tactics and game will not make you any more physically and financially attractive in the present time.
 

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hahahaha **** yeah pickup works

nothing like cold approaches. I love that stuff.

also helps you meet and evaluate lots of different kinds of people. sharpens the game, pickup does.

Im talking with a few girls I picked up at the current moment. its all in how you spin it.

they will be like "oh you were just doing pickup" and I'll be like "what, its a problem to talk to people that you think are interesting?"

and then thats the end of that conversation, and you still have some companionship. **** it eeeasy
 
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