"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Does "No Contact" really work?

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My Name is Nobody said:
I'm being real here... and after I sent her "leave me alone don't ever call or text me again" she sent me "STOP TEXTING ME" and she hit repeat 3 times because the message kept hitting my phone.
Exactly. You sent her a text. She wins.

It doesn't matter how she managed to pull it off, she got what she wanted: you texting her. :p

So yeah, time to re-read elephant thread.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Q: Does "no contact" work?

A: Depends how you define what "works." If "works" means getting her back, then it works just as well as anything else (i.e., rarely if ever works).

On the other hand, if you define "works" as helping keep you de-chumpified and able to move on and get on with your life properly (which sometimes ends up with her coming back, though you might not even want her at such time), then it works like a charm.
 

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Bonhomme said:
Q: Does "no contact" work?

A: Depends how you define what "works." If "works" means getting her back, then it works just as well as anything else (i.e., rarely if ever works).

B: On the other hand, if you define "works" as helping keep you de-chumpified and able to move on and get on with your life properly (which sometimes ends up with her coming back, though you might not even want her at such time), then it works like a charm.
You just summed up 30 pages in one tiny paragraph. Its unfortunate the OP can't take it to heart, he tries B for a second, gets a taste, then goes write back to A.
 

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You just summed up 30 pages in one tiny paragraph. Its unfortunate the OP can't take it to heart, he tries B for a second, gets a taste, then goes write back to A.
Lol. I first thought it was a strategy to get the chick back, but it turns out that it forces you to stand back from the situation and not do anything stupid. Then maybe you'll realize "hmm... good thing I haven't been talking to her, because I dont' like her as much anymore. This time away has let me get some perspective".

The tricky part is when you see the chick freaking out and your ego takes over. You're still playing her game.

So this thread should probably be put on hold unless something totally drastic happens, like the chick starts being all sweet and nice. That's probably next.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So this thread should probably be put on hold unless something totally drastic happens, like the chick starts being all sweet and nice. That's probably next.

That would be HILARIOUS. I really don't want to give this woman attention and feed her ego anymore but if she decides to try the "nice and sweet" angle, how can I not play along? Let's give it some time and you never know she might do it. That would be so funny.
 
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No, don't play along. It's a game, she'll make you think she's over it, you'll start being cool to her again then she'll slam your third nut in the door.

The thing with stupid drama games like this is you only win if you're always consistent. You either flat out ignore her or try to be buddies, you can't go back and forth because as long as you do that she's in control and laughing at you behind your back for jumping at all her little tricks.

Just be consistent in your actions. If you have to see her just nod your head like she was some strange GUY walking down the street that you were passing by.
 
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This thread needs an update. The woman still appears to hate me in case anybody was wondering. It's been almost 3 months, so I decided to test the waters.

I texted her asking how she is doing. She replied but it was nothing positive. We went back and forth a few times, and the last message she sent me was "you knucklehead delete my # and erase me from your memory have a nice life". It was in all caps too, like she was really mad.

We still see each other at work a few times a month but we have not uttered a word to each other.

This means she still wants me, right?
 

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Someday maybe we'll see the answer to the title of this thread.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
You missed a word. ;)

LOL, what do you really think? I mean, she replied so she must still have some interest.

I am half joking here ofcourse, I have no idea what's going on in reality as you can tell.
 

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If she had interest she'd be treating you well and wanting to be around you and making you feel good when she's around.
 
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If she had interest she'd be treating you well and wanting to be around you and making you feel good when she's around.
So why do I still have interest? She is NOT all that. She is not anything special I've had better but she still runs through my mind all the time.

Anybody know a good shrink?
 

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Doc Love: rejection always doubles interest.

The girls you can take or leave, once they let you know they are not interested become much more interesting to you because they are a challenge. It's exactly what we talk about here, but in reverse. In this case, instead of you being the DJ and she being your love slave she's the DJ and you're wanting to be her love slave.

She's not all that. She treated you like crap and you want to test the waters with someone who is mean to you.

This is why inner game is so important.
 

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And the fact that she knows she treated you bad, and you're asking for seconds, makes you look bad in her eyes, like you don't have any self-respect. BUT---what she thinks doesn't matter anyway.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Doc Love: rejection always doubles interest.

The girls you can take or leave, once they let you know they are not interested become much more interesting to you because they are a challenge. It's exactly what we talk about here, but in reverse. In this case, instead of you being the DJ and she being your love slave she's the DJ and you're wanting to be her love slave.

She's not all that. She treated you like crap and you want to test the waters with someone who is mean to you.

This is why inner game is so important.

But she treated me great until it got complicated. I don't want to rehash the story and get caught up in "what if's". It is what it is.
 

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It is what it is. I've been saying that a lot lately.

Chicks like you, and while they like you, they like you. If they really like you, while they really like you they really like you. When they stop liking you, they don't like you anymore. They may go from really liking you, to just liking you, to not being sure if they like you, to pretty sure they don't like you, to not liking you, to actually disliking you.

It's hard to think these are the same girls that were so kind and attentive previously. The demon seed is in every woman, whether or not it comes out, depends on how you act, and what her character is like.

Think about all the people that get divorced. They want to literally murder each other sometimes, and will dedicate the rest of their lives to destroying each other, will use their kids as tools to hurt the other.... and these are the same people who were 100% convinced they would be together for eternity holding hands and singing songs.

But to the topic, women can turn it off much quicker. It's in their genetics, they need that security, maybe they truly did like you before but when it stops it stops and they are on to the next dude. All no contact can really do is mess with her head and make it harder for her to move on because she's not sure you're dead yet.
 

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So why do I still have interest?
You're asking us??? :crazy:

Here's a question for 'ya, who are you seeing right now?
 
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You're asking us??? :crazy:

Here's a question for 'ya, who are you seeing right now?
That non english speaking girl in my quest to get laid thread, and a new one I'm about to start seeing this weekend. Motown Mack helped me out, and got her begging me for a date. Motown really is a mack.

I'm hoping to see both girls this weekend.
 

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It's hard to think these are the same girls that were so kind and attentive previously. The demon seed is in every woman, whether or not it comes out, depends on how you act, and what her character is like.
This is SO true and isn't recognized enough. Since I have been back in the dating world, I have been amazed at the Jekyl and Hyde personality that seems to be in most women (especially HBs). When they are totally into you, they can be the nicest, sweetest things-but when that changes, look out. That's one of the reasons I am a fan of not jumping into things too quickly.

Motown Mack helped me out, and got her begging me for a date. Motown really is a mack.
LOL, thanks for the props. That's easy part, I am pretty good at the conversing part usually. It's the cold approach where my game is pitifully weak.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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