"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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does it really make a difference contacting 2 days after number close or 3?

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this has me stumped.. if you've gotten a number close be it at a bar, cafe, party etc.. i've seen the general concensus is to call but IF you text then do it 48 hours or 2 days after you get the number because the good feelings she has gotten from you will have depleted with extra time waiting (plus the number of guys she may have given her number out too etc) does it really make a difference between waiting 2 days as oppose to 3?

i understand calling after 3 days spikes the interest back up whereas a text will just either keep it the same or reduce it further. if they're prone after 48 hours to lose IL, is 1 more day REALLY going to make that much difference? Like is the fact you waited one more day is the difference between her wanting to go out with you and not. let's assume the IL is at a moderate level for arguments sake.
 

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If her interest level is high, when you call her, she will WANT to go on a date with you. If you get a number Saturday night, calling Monday night after 6pm is fine. 1 day is NOT going to make or a break a chicks interest in you. The main point is just don't call/text the next day because it looks desperate as F***

Also its almost entirely on the impression you made when you first approached/spoke with her. Were you a confident Alpha male that ran the show, or a beta male that just barely got her number. Either way when you call she will either be interested or not. If not? NEXT!! Find a new one.
 

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spiegel549 said:
If her interest level is high, when you call her, she will WANT to go on a date with you. If you get a number Saturday night, calling Monday night after 6pm is fine. 1 day is NOT going to make or a break a chicks interest in you. The main point is just don't call/text the next day because it looks desperate as F***

Also its almost entirely on the impression you made when you first approached/spoke with her. Were you a confident Alpha male that ran the show, or a beta male that just barely got her number. Either way when you call she will either be interested or not. If not? NEXT!! Find a new one.
i dont mean the next day, i know that. you'll look desperate.. i'm talking about the difference between waiting say from Mon to Tues to contact.

let's assume you text and not call. (texting is more convenient although i agree calling is better, but sometiems i have so many numbers to call it's easier to text rather than spend a whole night calling)

like if you get a number on Sat, and you wait to Tues to text.. is really waiting to Tuesday as oppose to Monday going to make THAT much difference?

all i know and read is their IL drops after 48 hours and you're not fresh in their mind so unless you call to respike it after a few days (assuming they pick up) i'm not sure how important it is to make that date text the 2 days after.
 

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I would just text or call her when you have spare time and know enough about your week's plans to be able to schedule a date with her. I honestly don't think it matters when you text her as long as you made a solid impression in person and you are very precise with setting up your date.

I don't see how texting even later on the next day is desperate if you're not actually desperate. Best to just move things forward according to your own schedule. Then again, I'm not glued to my phone like some people are. I'm beginning to think that "planning" or really even strategizing things is useless and just saying "**** it" and doing what you want is the best approach to every part of life, as long as you're not hurting others (or yourself).
 

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It means absolutely **** all. The reason that "rule" exists is to prevent insecure and desperate guys from acting on that desperation and appearing too eager.

If you have your **** together and are truly confident, you can call her whenever YOU feel like it. Even the next day. Do you think James Bond would count down the days until he felt he could pick up the phone?

Assume that she wants to date you. Call her. Don't text. I know alot of people are saying that calling is old school and that texting is the "new" thing. That she may be more comfortable with text. The truth is that calling her, if done with confidence, is much more likely to increase her interest level. Who gives a **** what she is more comfortable with? Is she scared of picking up the phone? Just call her, set up the date, end the call and don't text her until you meet. Easy peasy. And you'l feel a hell of a lot more like a man after getting that date after a phone call then just firing of a text like a teenager. And SHE will also be impressed with your confidence. Most guys text for dates. Don't be that guy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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\O/ said:
It means absolutely **** all. The reason that "rule" exists is to prevent insecure and desperate guys from acting on that desperation and appearing too eager.

If you have your **** together and are truly confident, you can call her whenever YOU feel like it. Even the next day. Do you think James Bond would count down the days until he felt he could pick up the phone?

Assume that she wants to date you. Call her. Don't text. I know alot of people are saying that calling is old school and that texting is the "new" thing. That she may be more comfortable with text. The truth is that calling her, if done with confidence, is much more likely to increase her interest level. Who gives a **** what she is more comfortable with? Is she scared of picking up the phone? Just call her, set up the date, end the call and don't text her until you meet. Easy peasy. And you'l feel a hell of a lot more like a man after getting that date after a phone call then just firing of a text like a teenager. And SHE will also be impressed with your confidence. Most guys text for dates. Don't be that guy.
Exactly. Its all about the confidence. I have recently went through some learning curves and really woke my ass up. It's all about just having the balls and getting a broads number, and making the call. F*** texting, if a chick can't answer the phone and have a conversation for 5 minutes then is that a woman you really want to take on a date lol?

Call don't text when setting up dates. Be the man, ring her up. Honestly if she is into you whenever you call she will be DOWN to get together...if you made a bad first impression and just barely got her number then when you call no matter what time frame, she is going not answer, or not want to see you.

My best advice is spin multiple plates, and don't over think like I have, just do it. YOU are the prize not her.
 

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I've called a girl the same day, four hours later, telling her I was going to be down at the student bar to grab a bite to eat and to join me there if she's free. She came. Then, later, she came again.

It all depends on her interest level. On your confidence, too, but then her interest level depends on your confidence, so...

If she's super-interested, you can do nothing wrong (short of stabbing or raping her, obviously).

If you are reading too much into it, she will be busy the next few months. Or years.
 

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Here's the funny thing about this "waiting game" debate. Do something with your life and you don't have to play the waiting game in the first place.

That way, when you get a girl's number, you don't call because you're actually busy being a boss. Not because you're playing by a silly rule.
 

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If she really likes u, u could contact her 10 mins after number close and it wouldn't matter...lol
 

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I feel you bro.

I always give it a day longer than she expects.
 

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my rule is this, always text within 24 hrs of meeting. dont ask her out just send something funny and dont require a response from her. wait at least 3 days to ask her out via text. i usually ask her out day of. so lets say its friday, i'll text her around 1pm and say i just had some plans fall through, lets get a drink for happy hour.
 
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