"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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when she breaks up with you but isn't over you and you let her have it verbally and procede to delete her myspace number etc. does that make her second guess herself? I did that. i probably could have been more smooth and nonchalant but i messed up on that early on and at the time i was angry and let her have it. telling her she wasn't a good gf anyways and making her feel like an idiot for being influenced by her caddy friends (she hangs with guys who have an estrogen level higher than hers) and telling her im going to dwell everything she did till i can't stand the thought of her anymore. I told her i dont even want her in my life she's not worthy (in other words) of my attention and affection. mind you this girl is afraid of losing important people to her, its her biggest fear. i know this is a little immature that i wanna know the answer to this but hey im bitter! lol im sure most of us have been there. so i let her have it and proceeded to cut her out of every aspect where she might have a hold on me. what do you guys think?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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If she broke up with you, like Cappyton said, she is over you.

Whatever you've done thus far is irrelevant. What's done is done.

Getting angry when a girl breaks things off with you is natural, but it should be an anger process that you deal with by yourself or with close friends; not her.

Anger just gives any ex satisfaction that she did actually mean something to you.

I suggest you change your thinking. Stop wondering if it pisses her off and start moving on with your life for you.

It's tough, because you probably have no inspiration right now. Read a self-improvement book or something. Even if you don't read the whole thing, just getting in that state of mind should help boost you back into your own valuable self.
 

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ya but see this isn't the first breakup. we break up and get back break up and get back. "power struggle" she's not over me i can pretty much guarantee that and as for initiating the break up, oh i have, to get her to fall in line.. she does then something else comes up. this may very well be the last time tho cuz i am pretty fed up with the back and forth game. but of course i still do love her which complicates things atleast on my end.
 

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but u are right. i need to let go fully. relationships with games are not fun.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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stees said:
ya but see this isn't the first breakup. we break up and get back break up and get back. "power struggle" she's not over me i can pretty much guarantee that and as for initiating the break up, oh i have, to get her to fall in line.. she does then something else comes up. this may very well be the last time tho cuz i am pretty fed up with the back and forth game. but of course i still do love her which complicates things atleast on my end.
You don't have to tell me. I've been in one of these for almost 3 years now.

She may not be 'over you' but she's sure as hell not fully feeling you right now. If anything, she's just hoping for something better (in her eyes) to come around (and it will eventually).

This is why breaking up and getting back together multiple times never does work. Usually when a girl breaks it off, she's searching for something better, even if she still does have feelings for her ex.

If she can't find something better, sure she will come back. But it's a bloody cycle bro. It just keeps going and going and going.

It's not until you break fully free of her for a week or two that you'll see things from a much broader perspective.

Plenty o' fish in the sea.
 

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like WC2 said.
take a week or two off.
then you'll see.
its not that ur in love, you just blinded by her familiarity in your life.
its hard to let go.

so i suggest you tell her you want a week off or two.
go hang out with you're boys, actively pursue hobbies, and other women.
then you can look back and see how silly it is for you to be in it.

the stresses of a bad relationship can really affect a person and it can really hurt not just you for the time, but you're performance at work, gym and health.
i know because i have been in it, and that is why, today if i feel im not happy, i tell her im taking time off to think. but i also dont continue something that is doomed to die anyway.
 

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well my buddy checked her myspace (on his own lol) cuz of course i cant i deleted her plus i dont wanna look. and from what he said i think shes definitely second guessin n thinking. but i know its afcish to care but just for an update for yall.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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stees said:
wc2 so ur still in that relationship?
Hell no bro...

I'll get phone calls a few times a week, I usually just ignore them.
She'll attempt to come to my place sometimes and I'll just tell her I'm busy and to get the f*ck out.

I have to admit when I go out and I get a little sloshed, I am more tempted to sex her up, but I've avoided that emotion for a month or two now.. of course she just wants it more now and won't leave me alone.

Even if I'm walking out of the club horny as hell at the end of the night, anything is better than reverting back to the same sick ways of the ex. Keep your mind on what her intentions are and I doubt you'll ever go back.
 

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ic ic. ya she emailed me today. when she usually tries to get me to talk to her she does it subtly. like forwarding an inspirational email she received or something funny. she sent me 2 of those today and an email saying "please don't write back. i dont need to talk to you. your friend is looking for u he asked me for u and where ur at. (im thinking it was on myspace*) oh, and tell him ur not my bf anymore. thanks." she trying to ease her way back again? trying to get a hand on me? playing more mind games?
 

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stees said:
ic ic. ya she emailed me today. when she usually tries to get me to talk to her she does it subtly. like forwarding an inspirational email she received or something funny. she sent me 2 of those today and an email saying "please don't write back. i dont need to talk to you. your friend is looking for u he asked me for u and where ur at. (im thinking it was on myspace*) oh, and tell him ur not my bf anymore. thanks." she trying to ease her way back again? trying to get a hand on me? playing more mind games?
Either way, don't reply to her.
 

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you sure showed her friend.. and now your wondering if she's trying to get back into your life..

so who told who what's up?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It's a pointless bs message, she's trying to fvck with you. Ignore it.
 
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