"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Does EVERY pretty girl have a boyfriend?

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The thread starter is fooling himself. Every day there are 18,000 girls who turn 18 in each state. Let's say 10% of them are so called "Cute/Hot" the 8-10 on the "rating scale." That's about 900 girls, I don't think every single one of them have boy friends. Anyways, it's so easy to steal girlfriends from American dudes. No offense, but the majority don't have a clue and become very insecure/ clingy when they face competition.
Yes but we're looking for a girl in the region where one lives. I also wouldn't say the BFs of the hot girls are clueless either. They must be doing things right to some extent, clearly. If it's so easy there wouldn't be so many good looking single guys.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Nip/Tuck said:
The thread starter is fooling himself. Every day there are 18,000 girls who turn 18 in each state. Let's say 10% of them are so called "Cute/Hot" the 8-10 on the "rating scale." That's about 900 girls, I don't think every single one of them have boy friends. Anyways, it's so easy to steal girlfriends from American dudes. No offense, but the majority don't have a clue and become very insecure/ clingy when they face competition.
yeah, basically. Even using math and numbers it still does not make sense.

As to the competition part, tell us what you think that we should do?

Personally, I make friends with them, but I know a lot of guys that are idiots and "forbid their girls" from hanging out with male friends/competition.

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I'm really happy for you that hot women walk up to you in bars and the street etc. and ask you for sex. Well done. :)
cause that s what guys do, right? they just walk up to a woman and "ask her for sex"? no, they APPROACH and, depending on their game/looks a woman will decide to do something with them or not

yes, i have women APPROACH me when i go out. Do i just hook up with anyone of them out of desperation or because even though she looks average, her "value is raised by society"?

NO! because i m not desperate, because if i don't find the girl i want in a bar when i leave i still have a couple options one phone call away. That s why the advice you ll get from any experienced DJ is always "spin plates", keep all your options open. That way you can afford to be picky and you won't have to settle for scraps.

remember, whether women's value is raised by society or no doesn't matter. what matters is whether YOU raise their value, whether YOU put them on a pedestal
 

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cause that s what guys do, right? they just walk up to a woman and "ask her for sex"? no, they APPROACH and, depending on their game/looks a woman will decide to do something with them or not

yes, i have women APPROACH me when i go out. Do i just hook up with anyone of them out of desperation or because even though she looks average, her "value is raised by society"?

NO! because i m not desperate, because if i don't find the girl i want in a bar when i leave i still have a couple options one phone call away. That s why the advice you ll get from any experienced DJ is always "spin plates", keep all your options open. That way you can afford to be picky and you won't have to settle for scraps.

remember, whether women's value is raised by society or no doesn't matter. what matters is whether YOU raise their value, whether YOU put them on a pedestal
Yes agreed, and yes I don't see women as higher value species when actually interacting. I'm still quite picky and won't go below a HB6.
 

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drak_ool said:
cause that s what guys do, right? they just walk up to a woman and "ask her for sex"? no, they APPROACH and, depending on their game/looks a woman will decide to do something with them or not

yes, i have women APPROACH me when i go out. Do i just hook up with anyone of them out of desperation or because even though she looks average, her "value is raised by society"?

NO! because i m not desperate, because if i don't find the girl i want in a bar when i leave i still have a couple options one phone call away. That s why the advice you ll get from any experienced DJ is always "spin plates", keep all your options open. That way you can afford to be picky and you won't have to settle for scraps.

remember, whether women's value is raised by society or no doesn't matter. what matters is whether YOU raise their value, whether YOU put them on a pedestal
best damn post on this thread.

That is beautiful and what i have been trying to get across.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Nip/Tuck said:
The thread starter is fooling himself. Every day there are 18,000 girls who turn 18 in each state. Let's say 10% of them are so called "Cute/Hot" the 8-10 on the "rating scale." That's about 900 girls, I don't think every single one of them have boy friends. Anyways, it's so easy to steal girlfriends from American dudes. No offense, but the majority don't have a clue and become very insecure/ clingy when they face competition.
^^^the exrtreme optimist... often looks at only the good side of the picture...
 
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plenty of chicks have boyfriends, that doesn't mean they're fair play too.
 

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plenty of chicks have boyfriends, that doesn't mean they're fair play too.
I don't agree with taking girls from their bfs BUT, we shouldn't say the word "fair play." A girlfriend is a disposable romantic partner. She is not your wife, not your property, she has not signed a contract, or yet swore allegiance in the yes of the Lord to be with you till death do you part. Women are fair play unless they are married.

So really, it is fair play but it doesn't mean it is morally right. You can go hunt a deer, fair play, but does it make it right to kill an innocent animal for fun?
 

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every PRETTY girl has a boyfriend, or two, or three. ****, how else would they get such big ego's and act like they are the ****? as long as a girl is pretty, she has it made. if by some chance she is single, don't believe there isn't a line of guys from the east coast to the west coast vying for her attention that she can't choose at any time. men don't have this, unless they have lots of money and fame, that's it, but he still has to do the pursuing. If you compare an equally attractive woman to an equally attractive man, the woman will attract way more people everytime.
 

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And so what? If they like to walk around as if they eat coal and sh!t diamonds, no biggie.

I just bring them up to my level and remind them that they rip ass in their sleep as well. A "boyfriend" or a "I'm seeing somebody" has never stopped me. I could care less what some schmuck is doing, I'm in this for me.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Lord Shinra said:
A "boyfriend" or a "I'm seeing somebody" has never stopped me. I could care less what some schmuck is doing, I'm in this for me.
Not stopped you from going for her, yes, but the situation in which she's pursued so much that she's rarely single and thus to 'get her' is very hard, exists nontheless. And I'm sure you'd rather not get the bf line, we all know it's either a no-go area or hassle from there.
 

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What makes you better than all these other guys? thas the mentality you gots 2 have and show it to her. Just basically you gotta be better than in all around everythng from those other guys she is seeing because why should she look at u when there is 10 other guys with hot bod's chasing after her nam sayin? So gotta get some value or replication value :p either intelligence, looks and etc. AM I RIGHT =P
 

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What makes you better than all these other guys? thas the mentality you gots 2 have and show it to her. Just basically you gotta be better than in all around everythng from those other guys she is seeing because why should she look at u when there is 10 other guys with hot bod's chasing after her nam sayin? So gotta get some value or replication value :p either intelligence, looks and etc. AM I RIGHT =P
Exactly. Although I disagree that intelligence is seen as a positive, not on it's own anyway. Usually a negative even if subconsciously.

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every PRETTY girl has a boyfriend, or two, or three. ****, how else would they get such big ego's and act like they are the ****? as long as a girl is pretty, she has it made. if by some chance she is single, don't believe there isn't a line of guys from the east coast to the west coast vying for her attention that she can't choose at any time. men don't have this, unless they have lots of money and fame, that's it, but he still has to do the pursuing. If you compare an equally attractive woman to an equally attractive man, the woman will attract way more people everytime.
How do you figure??? Did anyone even read my post back on page 8, 9 or 10??? Why does a girl being "pretty" automatically mean she has a bf?? Contrary to popular belief, we don't just snap our fingers and *poof* there's a bf. I've been single for 4 years (minus a FWB during 2/3 of that time) but a) I didnt want a bf because I had just gotten out of a bad relationship, and b) I am not overly picky but I have some standards and I haven't found another guy I want to date. I can guarantee you there is nothing wrong with me at all physically or emotionally (for the most part emotionally..I mean everyone has some baggage.) People are always shocked to hear I don't have a bf (or for that matter, not married because I am 28) but hell...I'm not going to just get a bf because "I can" or because its expected.

Don't assume so much.
 

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Uh SunnyD you just said that you don't have a BF because you don't want one and you haven't found another guy that you wanted to date.

As was stated many times in this thread, the only reason that a girl is single for a long period of time is because she wants to be. Heck even when you were single you were still getting sex. Men who are single for a long period of time usually are that way by no choice of their own. No man chooses to go without sex.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Well during the period of time that I didn't have a bf, I didn't want one. Now I would like to get into a relationship again and I have for the last several months. By saying I can't find a guy isn't saying I don't want one. It's saying I CAN'T FIND ONE. Haha. I get pursued but not a lot, and like I said...there's nothing wrong with me at all.
 

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Well during the period of time that I didn't have a bf, I didn't want one. Now I would like to get into a relationship again and I have for the last several months. By saying I can't find a guy isn't saying I don't want one. It's saying I CAN'T FIND ONE. Haha. I get pursued but not a lot, and like I said...there's nothing wrong with me at all.
Well just about any woman who wants a BF but can't get one has to have something wrong with her. First off the only criteria a lot of males have is she has to be not totally ugly and not totally insane. So if that only leaves being too picky. You even admitted you're being pursued, that's better than what over 90% of guys have. You probably think your BF has to be Brad Pitt.
 

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Well just about any woman who wants a BF but can't get one has to have something wrong with her. First off the only criteria a lot of males have is she has to be not totally ugly and not totally insane. So if that only leaves being too picky. You even admitted you're being pursued, that's better than what over 90% of guys have. You probably think your BF has to be Brad Pitt.
No no at all, honestly. I'm not looking for a guy that makes a ton of a money or a guy that looks like Brd Pitt. I'm just looking for, as bad as it sounds...the male version of me..haha. I don't know what the problem, like I explained in a way earlier post...I'm "one of the guys" and that has always been a problem for me. If anyone here is on plentyoffish...I'd give you my profile id so you can see I'm not sitting here bull****ting you saying nothing is wrong with me. Maybe you could the prof. out and tell me what it is then, because I don't get it, my friends don't get it..and even ex-bf's don't get.

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Exactly. Although I disagree that intelligence is seen as a positive, not on it's own anyway. Usually a negative even if subconsciously.

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Could you elaborate ? I don't get it.
 

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Could you elaborate ? I don't get it.
A study was done looking at the IQ's of guys and their sexual activity level. The optimal IQ for getting laid was slightly below the mean IQ, after the mean value the sex rate dropped considerably. (Age range was 18-25 ish I think).

So that means guys that are 'slightly thick' are the most sexually active. This agrees with what we see in real life. Maths/Physics/Engineering etc students are always single and the guys doing arts subjects and 'doss' subjects have some more fun.

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

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