Does becoming muscular really help your game?

[bigshot]

Its about the discipline and mindset to get muscular. It changes you, believe me.

 

[Mad Manic]

Its about the discipline and mindset to get muscular. It changes you, believe me.

People still think it's a 6 month quick easy job to getting a great body, they still don't know/accept that it's a few years of damn hard work.

MM

 

[Tear Gas]

being muscular doesn't help your "game" it just makes women more attracted to you sexually. When you're so hot that women want to **** you just from how you look like, you don't really need "game". Having game is the process of sweet talking a girl in bed with you, but you don't need much of that when you have a nice bod + face...

most girls like a guy with minimal to moderate muscle mass and lean (little bodyfat) kinda like abercrombie models. Just look at the guys that women fantasize over and take notes...it's not that hard...

 

[nightcrawler]

muscular only helps when you have

1. height

2. a good face

If you have height and a good face, you don't even need to be muscular, you just can't be fat.

If your short, and you get jacked, you just look shorter.

So yeah, muscles are just the icing on the cake.

But a short dorky looking guy won't get girls with muscles...

What would you consider short?

I am 5'9" and feel short as hell ..seems as though every guy is taller than me and girls are always close to my height

 

[ChrizZ]

A general rule is that the shorter you are the more muscular you have to be.

 

[Sandow]

Nah. as long as ur not obese girls really don't care

Guys that are obsessed with their bodies need to workout all the time to feed their oversized egos. It aint even for girls.

 

[bigshot]

Lets not make this into another "height" thread

People still think it's a 6 month quick easy job to getting a great body, they still don't know/accept that it's a few years of damn hard work.

MM

Glad someone knows what i'm talking about

 

[nando]

What would you consider short?

I am 5'9" and feel short as hell ..seems as though every guy is taller than me and girls are always close to my height

don't listen to that bull ****, my friend is 5'4 and muscular as hell and gets much more ladies than my other friends who are not fat but average/tall.

 

[nando]

Nah. as long as ur not obese girls really don't care

Guys that are obsessed with their bodies need to workout all the time to feed their oversized egos. It aint even for girls.

who said it is because of oversized egos? maybe it's because we care about our health? Maybe we like strength? This comment is expected from those who lack the discipline and dedication to go to the gym and eat properly.

 

[meitenesrigas]

Nah. as long as ur not obese girls really don't care

Guys that are obsessed with their bodies need to workout all the time to feed their oversized egos. It aint even for girls.

Brilliant. Clip and save. At least a few of you are starting to get it.

 

[Maxtro]

The most important thing that having a muscular body is that it will boost your confidence. Liking how your body looks and knowing that you are stronger/tougher can not hurt.

There is no denying that women like guys with muscle. And no I'm not talking about body builder level. Based on looks alone a woman will pick a guy who is toned over a guy who is too skinny and another guy that is fat.

Being toned + Confidence = Win

 

[blackbelt2k]

you guys are too funny, lol. Your right that muscles don't mean ****. But your missing the main point, its not about the women, its about you. If being fit is a passion of yours then do it. If playing ball is your passion then do it. The goal is to find what drives you and be passionate about it. The rest will fall into place. You all think that things will happen overnight, THEY WON'T. Find something you like and do it. Don't go to gym for women, go for yourself and women will want you and your muscles. Just be yourself.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Another disguised "Looks Thread".

 

[Sun Tzu]

A muscular body will always appeal to most women because they equate a fit body with protection & provision, two of the most important issues to them. Muscularity also transmits information to them that a man will be "potent" when it comes time for her to have children. This attraction is hard-wired into them and they simply have no choice.

That being said, it is a fact that this initial edge in attraction can be nullified instantly by poor game (underdeveloped social skills). It can happen in an instant. Physique will rarely save you in such a situation.

Based on past girlfriends and studies that I've read about recently, the most attractive body type seems to be lean and slightly muscular. Huge muscles might appeal to a small minority, but most find them "gross", as they would word it.

 

[Beffing]

OF COURSE having a nice/muscular physique helps, in many ways. It not only boosts your self confidence, but women also notice this confidence and increases attraction (obviously). Secondly, when a girl sees a guy who looks like he takes care of himself, she feels that he has high value and takes pride in his appearance. And if nothing else, it taps into the all important security factor. Women want strong confident men versus a weak confident man with nothing but his game to back it up. However, there are many exceptions to this, so dont take this as a vast generalization

 

[DonJuan11]

First off, let me say that I do agree that it might help your appearance a little if you look like a lazy slouch or a skinny geek.

But here's my argument:

1) Every guy I've known personally who has done more than well with women (ex: could easily pull a new girl every week or two or establish a relationship with the snap of their fingers) was not buff or muscular at all. I'm sure they were substantially fit to a certain degree, but seeing them at the gym would be quite a rarity. Even some of the well known PUAs don't look very muscular (Mystery, David DeAngelo).

If you can do what they can do, then you don't need a muscular body to pull women.


2) I had a roommate that would constantly get girls and I would thus become jealous. Out of the jealousy I took myself to the gym and start lifting weights like crazy, this was a mistake. What I should have done with this jealousy was go out with my friend or on my own and talk to girls in person with him or alone. The weights did nothing but make me even more awkward by adding muscles on top of my awkwardness that I never overcame by talking to girls.

You answered your own question here.

3) The guys I see on the streets and on campus with girls are far from buff. They just have this look to them. I wouldn't exactly call this look confidence, but it's some sort of look I don't have. They seem to have really nice hair or a really nice clothing style. These guys seem content with their lives just by looking at them.

If you can have really nice hair and a really nice clothing style, and seem really content with your life, then you don't need a muscular body to pull women.

4) In several social circles at my school it's practically looked down upon to be a muscular guy. The guys that I see do well in these circles tend to be fairly short and incredibly social.

If you can be incredibly social, then you don't need a muscular body to pull women.

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Make luv and listen to the music, you got let yourself go!

 

[Ken785]

Of course it helps your game. Do you like women with big boobs or raisins? I imagine it's a valid comparison. I need to hit the gym myself and if I did I know I'd have much more success.

However you still need a good personality because a muscular AFC is still going to get rejected.

yeah but its easy for a woman to pay $5000 to have fake boobs...its hard for guys to work for muscles...imagine if girls had to work out to get their boobs big???? every girl would be flat. They have no idea how hard it is and how much dedication it takes.

 

[redbyte]

After a year of hitting the gym. Results:

Hi,
I thought I'd give my own experience on this topic. It is neither right, nor wrong, just my own experience:

Just over a year ago I weighed in at 66kg (145lbs) with 21% body fat. I really liked this chick and was major AFC so I failed many times. I was shy, and I didn't believe in myself, because I knew that women didn't find me attractive. I was determined to change that so I bought Anthony Ellis' program for skinny guys.

A year later I weigh close to 80KG (176lbs) with 14% body fat. Now when I go walking around the shops I see hot women checking me out and giving me "that look". What does that do for me? You guessed it. I smile and get a massive boost of confidence. As this happens more and more my confidence levels increase. So now the woman I was interested in, has not only realised the physical change I have made, but also that I appear more focused on reaching goals. So now she has picked up her game and become interested in me. Only problem for her is, now I'm thinking, "I can do way better than her". :rock:

Bulking up has taught me to respect myself and stick to a goal, which as I'm sure you all know, women find very attractive. Add to that increased confidence and a killer body and you're unstoppable!

If you've already got self discipline, goals and confidence I'd say, "no you probably don't need to be hitting the gym". However most of the guys on this forum don't. So I think it's a valuable lesson that many of us can benefit from.

Like I said though, that's just my opinion.

 

[mutambo]

Redbyte got it, He witnessed the change first hand. Just dont kid your self your into working out for women instead work out for yourself. Its a total confidence booster.

 

[Nighthawk]

Most girls don't give a crap about muscles, and it turns a lot of the smarter ones off. My body is a super-sexy SKINNY one, and that's what the hotties I've dated actively prefer. Some chicks go for muscles though. Usually the dumb ones.

A girl friend of mine works in a clothes shop. Recently she was talking to a couple of skinny indie-types when a big muscley dude changed his shirt in the middle of the store, showing off what he thought was the ideal physique. My friend reassured the guys 'You do know that his look is totally repulsive and all the girls you like are craving your skinny little frames don't you?'

Funny, in TV and movies they always equate rippling muscles with the guy who gets all the chicks, but in real life there are plenty of muscle-bound 'hunks' that can't get a woman while the men who are confident enough without hitting the gym are often the real players.

Get buff if you want, I've worked out a little to build my muscles so I like what I see in the mirror. Maybe it'll help your confidence. But look around at the guys who consistently do well with women and see how ripped they are.