"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Does anyone else see no need for using C&F?

Scars

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If I recall correctly, C&F was just used for getting them attracted to you. But some girls are %100 attracted to you before you even say a single word to them. I guess it's a little easier for good-looking guys, but I will only use maybe one C&F line a night. And that is just only to see where I stand on their interest level. I don't bother with girls that aren't interested, so when I know a girl is interested I immediately go in for the kill. I whip out the kino and jump more into the comfort stage. I can make girls completely trust me within a few hours of meeting them, which makes it really simple to have one night stands. Maybe it's a little different for the relationship type guys, but I've always been more of a PUA then a DJ myself.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Whats the difference between a PUA and a DJ? I thought they were synonyms..
 

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Or maybe being C&F is just your natural personallity so you see no use in it because you don't consciously use it.
 

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PUA is a pick-up artist.
DJs have more code-of-honor type stuff they go by. They're like PUA with morals I guess. I'm sure someone else will come a long and explain it better than I just have.
 

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Scars said:
I guess it's a little easier for good-looking guys, but I will only use maybe one C&F line a night
Like someone said, its clearly not a part of your personality. If youre using lines, then its probably not really your style. I do it cause its entertaining and makes me giggle.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It's common misconception that you NEED it. Of course you don't need c/f, that's like saying you NEED to use the Mystery Method or you NEED to be this personality type. There are many ways to do this and you just need to do what works with you rather than trying to intimate someone else. It works for me because it comes naturally now and I love it. I find that when I drop it that things can start less than smoothly. It probably attracts a certain type of girl too.

Think of all the badboy types, are they c/f? What about guys that are smooth? Artistic types that girls like? Manly men? And look at all the schools of pickup there are. There is one single way to do this, you just have do what fits yourself. Some people like Mystery because it's scientific and they like having canned material, some people like Juggler because it's natural and lets you make connections with people, some people like Ross Jeffries because they.. um.. are creepy? I like to take what I like from everyone and make my own conclusions and I would advise everyone to do the same rather than following one guru mindlessly.

PUA and DJ is just semantics, they have different meaning to different people. In general PUA refers to someone who picks up girls or learns to for a living/hobby. A DJ is usually considered someone who is a real man, a successful person who is also a great guy with ethics and also gets a lot of girls. The main difference is that a DJ doesn't usually go after girls and they aren't the most important thing in his life because he has his passions but a PUA is always trying to get girls. Someone told me "The main difference between my PUA friends and the DJs at sosuave that if a girl flakes on the DJ he won’t bother with her or next her unless she makes an effort for him while a PUA will try and work out a bunch of different ways to get her". Make your own conclusions.
 

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I don't understand why "C+F" is an act to you guys. Having a sense of humor should be part of your personality. As should high self-esteem.
 
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