"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Does anyone else see no need for using C&F?

Scars

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If I recall correctly, C&F was just used for getting them attracted to you. But some girls are %100 attracted to you before you even say a single word to them. I guess it's a little easier for good-looking guys, but I will only use maybe one C&F line a night. And that is just only to see where I stand on their interest level. I don't bother with girls that aren't interested, so when I know a girl is interested I immediately go in for the kill. I whip out the kino and jump more into the comfort stage. I can make girls completely trust me within a few hours of meeting them, which makes it really simple to have one night stands. Maybe it's a little different for the relationship type guys, but I've always been more of a PUA then a DJ myself.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Whats the difference between a PUA and a DJ? I thought they were synonyms..
 

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Or maybe being C&F is just your natural personallity so you see no use in it because you don't consciously use it.
 

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PUA is a pick-up artist.
DJs have more code-of-honor type stuff they go by. They're like PUA with morals I guess. I'm sure someone else will come a long and explain it better than I just have.
 

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Scars said:
I guess it's a little easier for good-looking guys, but I will only use maybe one C&F line a night
Like someone said, its clearly not a part of your personality. If youre using lines, then its probably not really your style. I do it cause its entertaining and makes me giggle.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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It's common misconception that you NEED it. Of course you don't need c/f, that's like saying you NEED to use the Mystery Method or you NEED to be this personality type. There are many ways to do this and you just need to do what works with you rather than trying to intimate someone else. It works for me because it comes naturally now and I love it. I find that when I drop it that things can start less than smoothly. It probably attracts a certain type of girl too.

Think of all the badboy types, are they c/f? What about guys that are smooth? Artistic types that girls like? Manly men? And look at all the schools of pickup there are. There is one single way to do this, you just have do what fits yourself. Some people like Mystery because it's scientific and they like having canned material, some people like Juggler because it's natural and lets you make connections with people, some people like Ross Jeffries because they.. um.. are creepy? I like to take what I like from everyone and make my own conclusions and I would advise everyone to do the same rather than following one guru mindlessly.

PUA and DJ is just semantics, they have different meaning to different people. In general PUA refers to someone who picks up girls or learns to for a living/hobby. A DJ is usually considered someone who is a real man, a successful person who is also a great guy with ethics and also gets a lot of girls. The main difference is that a DJ doesn't usually go after girls and they aren't the most important thing in his life because he has his passions but a PUA is always trying to get girls. Someone told me "The main difference between my PUA friends and the DJs at sosuave that if a girl flakes on the DJ he won’t bother with her or next her unless she makes an effort for him while a PUA will try and work out a bunch of different ways to get her". Make your own conclusions.
 

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I don't understand why "C+F" is an act to you guys. Having a sense of humor should be part of your personality. As should high self-esteem.
 
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