"Doc Love" and "Ask Men"

[Reed247]

Does anybody use this "System"?
Is the info in that book basically the same as the info on this website? I was thinking about buying it but I am not sure because It is expensive and I don't think it is some Holy Grail of Info. Do you read ask men.com also? I do but It seems this site is totally different then that site. That site seems to focus on this attitude---women should chase men and men should never chase women. I mean if I have that attitude I am going to be driving away a lot of opportunities for sex, or romance. Who knows anymore.

 

[bobbob]

I've read his book and thought it was total garbage. His whole "interest level" concept is retarded. Like the other person has a freaking meter over their head.

I haven't read all of DYD but so far its very good. If you are going to spend money, I'd recommend that.

 

[capboso]

I think that Doc Love's "System" is excellent. It distills relationships into a few basic axioms. Everything he writes about is on target. After a few readings things really sink in and you see relationships with much more clarity.

I recommend buying it if you can afford it, and if you are interested in long-term relationships. Don't get it if you are interested in "playing the field," or anything along those lines.

 

[Nightwing]

Originally posted by capboso
I think that Doc Love's "System" is excellent. It distills relationships into a few basic axioms. Everything he writes about is on target. After a few readings things really sink in and you see relationships with much more clarity.

I recommend buying it if you can afford it, and if you are interested in long-term relationships. Don't get it if you are interested in "playing the field," or anything along those lines.

I agree with capboso. Doc Love is on the money with a lot of the things he talks about. Get it if you're into LTR's

 

[Reed247]

doc love

I think the guy is probably right about long term. Whenever I e-mail him he usually has this attitude "move on if she's no good". Basically it's probably better to be cold blooded until the girl really proves you can open your heart, for LTR's.

 

[DJHoolahoop]

actually i know some people out there dislike David DeAngelo, but I personally am a big fan of his work. Hearing what he has to say about dating and women feels very close to what is discussed in sosuave. Thing is people always say his stuff is only scratching the surface, which is true, but he only says enough to make you aware of the problems and what NOT to do and WHAT to be aware of.

He doesn't tell you step-by-step what to do, because that's for you to figure out on your own. I'ts more about adapting your own style and approach as opposed to being dished out one-liners and other things of that nature, because eventually they get boring and old and it's best to have it as a part of your persona and what not than to just use up all of someone else's material and end up going "great, now what do i do?".

I'd recommend his stuff especially.

 

[Gravyboat]

Originally posted by bobbob
I've read his book and thought it was total garbage. His whole "interest level" concept is retarded. Like the other person has a freaking meter over their head.

I haven't read all of DYD but so far its very good. If you are going to spend money, I'd recommend that.

Lol...yeah, I've read some of Doc Love's columns on askmen.com, and I had often wondered the same thing about that "interest level" sh*t. It's like he's just throwing numbers out there--

"Well Bob, her interest level was initially 73% or higher, but since you acted like a complete douchebag, it dropped to 31%..."

Riiight.

Anyway, it's just a gimmick. I'm sure there's plenty of useful information in his program, but my interest level in buying it is about 0%.

As for DYD...I bought the E-book last year, and I've found that for me, the general principles work VERY well. Women love to act "fake mad" when you bust their chops. And then, when you don't give in, they wanna talk to you even more. The challenge, confidence, and independence this type of behavior radiates is captivating to them.

 

[Gravyboat]

Originally posted by DJHoolahoop
actually i know some people out there dislike David DeAngelo, but I personally am a big fan of his work...people always say his stuff is only scratching the surface, which is true, but he only says enough to make you aware of the problems and what NOT to do and WHAT to be aware of.

(paraphrased)

I like a lot of his stuff too (other than the ten-minute sales pitch he transitions into towards the end of his mailbags...)

DeAngelo definitely just "scratches the surface," but the funny thing is, that's the hardest part for a lot of guys. His tactics prevent you from killing attraction right off the bat, and he explains WHY certain behaviors kill attraction. I found it helpful.

Some of his suggestions are a little over the top for me, but that's part of the game--finding out which parts work for YOU, and implementing them in such a way that they complement your natural personality.

 

[BigFoot]

Both are good, the DocLove system is probably a little better for guys starting out thinking about all of this.
But what I have found, in real life, is that you will find situations that neither of these 'models' predict or handle very well.
Exceptions if you will. The seemingly 'AFC' that has a great relationship with the best looking gal in town. The 'mistakes' I made, pouring my heart out for example, that won me the girl.

 

[Blackgame]

all in all buying any book isn't nessary to get good at this game
I mean all you need is right here for free

 

[DJHoolahoop]

all in all buying any book isn't nessary to get good at this game
I mean all you need is right here for free

very good point i personally just like taking in everything possible to expand my knowledge, but that's also the downfall. It's about time i went out there and really TRIED it.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Reading doc's articles on Askmen isn't the same as reading {i]The System[/i]. He only glosses over his theories.

I know he use to offer a money back guarantee which shows that he believes in his work. If you are a typical 'nice guy' that dates often, you could easily get your return on investment withing a couple of weeks of using The system.