"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Do your girlfriends talk about their exes?
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Tell her to stop talking about her ex, if she doesn't, leave her.axxo said:
EDIT: Talking about the ex at all is a bad sign. Girls say they hate bad boys and jerks, but you know what they do? They have sex with them.
If she didn't feel anything for her ex, she wouldn't be talking about him.
i.e.
Girl: blahblah blah my ex...
Me: why the **** are you telling me this? I cant think of anything I'm less interested in hearing if I'm honest.
If she thinks you're being a d1ck, ask her if she'd like it if you were always talking about your ex's? Just make it clear to her that you're not particularly interested at all and that she's boring the fvck out of you.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You can easily prevent this from happening once you tell your dates... "I'm not the kind of guy that likes to talk about my exes"
Won't hurt you a bit, and will avoid her bringing this topic up.
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The reason undesireable sh!t like this happens to you guys is because you don't set your frame for how you want the relationship to be from the beginning.
Meaning that in the very beginning of the relationship you and your girl need to go over both of your personal do's and don'ts and if your girl does not live up to the bargain you walk away and find another girl and vice versa if you break the agreement.
Its just that fvcking simple but you guys insist on making life harder for yourselves.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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It doesn't come off that way because you are going over BOTH of your do's and don'ts.
Its not a one sided affair.
Just as a single example here ya go...
She can say well I don't want you going out with your girl "friends" without me and vice versa where you say the same to her about her guy "friends" where she doesn't go out with them without you.
If a woman disagrees with this thats fine.
You and she were clearly not meant to have a relationship together.
You two do not mesh as a couple that shares emotions and intimacy.
That however does not mean that you and such a girl cannot simply be fvck buddies and do your own thing when not together and if the girl in this scenario eventually catches feelings for you, you must be a man and next her since you've already established that you and she are not cut out for a relationship together earlier on.
Real men can do that.
AFC pvssies who have no self or emotional control cannot and like to argue about the impossibilities of this on the forum.
Thats fine though.
Maybe this advice really isn't for EVERYBODY but advice like this is necessary for those lurkers out there who are looking to get the best possible deal for themselves in life with the least amount of hassles.
Even the question where you are worrying about coming off as controlling or whiny looks at things from the wrong perspective.
Fvck what the woman thinks.
All that matters is what you think.
You should be approaching this whole dating/hooking up scene as a numbers game and a salesman type of thing.
Some women will buy what you are selling and some won't.
Some women love your product and some women don't.
And when they don't or won't it doesn't mean your product is bad or defective it can simply mean the difference between someone preferring say Coke as opposed to Pepsi.
There is nothing at all wrong with you wanting to live your life a certain way and if your personality is advanced enough almost any woman out there will be sold on that if they don't buy anything else about you.
Go read some SunnyD posts.
She is making one guy in particular VERY happy at this moment as he passes her and another girl around because he didn't stop to say gee I wonder if this approach will make SunnyD think of me as controlling or whiny.
No, he went for what he wanted how he wanted it and he got it over and over again and is likely still getting it.
Now sure his approach may not work with every woman but the fact of the matter is it will always work with just enough to keep him happy as well any man with the balls to try it.
Igetit!
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EXACTLY.KontrollerX said:
I hate it when I see threads like this. To me,this guy makes it sound like he's in a smoke filled interrogation room,with 2 detectives standing over him asking him questions,trying to get him to crack. This girl was asking him questions....well,did he even stop to think,"Hey,why am I on the defensive?"
He could just as easily ask her things as she does him. That having a wek frame.
I think your rep. meter must be full Kontroller. This is the third time I've tried to rep. you,and is said something about having to spread it to others.
I met my BPD ex, around six months after her husband had DIED. I was ALWAYS hearing about how they were soulmates, and blah,blah,blah, and felt I was being compared to him. Sometimes she would freak out because of something reminded her of him, and she would dissappear for days. She used this as a manipulative tool against me countless times. If I spoke up against it, I felt it would have made me the biggest ******* ever, so I held it all in. One night, there was significant evidence of her cheating, but I couldnt confront her about it, because her "dad was on his death bed." I still dont know if it was true or not. What are you supposed to do in that situation?
Anyway, chicks will talk about ex's. Dont worry about it unless she is comparing you, (and your losing!) or it sounds like she's still hung up on him. Tell her you'd rather not hear about it.