"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Do you use Coupons on First Dates?

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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SoSuaveDude

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yeah brah. especially the mcdonalds ones. Buy on big mac and get a free coke and small fries for your date. Can't say she ever complains!
 

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The first couple dates for me generally aren't dining dates unless it's a quick smoothie/coffee/happy-hour date, which gives me an easy out if my date turns out to be insane or some-such. Otherwise I like to do things: hiking, ice skating, local tourist attraction sort of thing. That way I am usually doing something I'd want to do or like doing anyway. If the date turns out well an impulsive bite to eat can follow.

I wouldn't use a coupon early on... that's just isn't exciting. At all. In my opinion it shows that you are more interested in yourself than you are in her or the date.

How would it seem to you if the girl you are out on a first date with busts out a coupon at the end of your dinner? For me, it'd be off-putting and a turn-off. It would signal to me that she didn't suggest the place because she thought it would be a good spot for a date, but she did it so she wouldn't have to pay as much as going somewhere else; thus her priority not being me or the date.

Coupons are for friends and established relationships.
 

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SoSuaveDude said:
yeah brah. especially the mcdonalds ones. Buy on big mac and get a free coke and small fries for your date. Can't say she ever complains!
It's funny... based on what I read on this site, to this I can safely say "not sure if serious..."

IMO, using coupons is not rec. because the negatives outweigh the positives. The negatives here being her thinking you are a cheap f*ck, and the positives being that she MIGHT notice you are not needy because you did this.
 

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Any woman that would frown upon me saving money on overpriced food is not the woman for me...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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J Roc

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Cashew said:
How would it seem to you if the girl you are out on a first date with busts out a coupon at the end of your dinner? For me, it'd be off-putting and a turn-off. It would signal to me that she didn't suggest the place because she thought it would be a good spot for a date, but she did it so she wouldn't have to pay as much as going somewhere else; thus her priority not being me or the date.
The wouldnt be a turn off for me. It just means she saved $10 and will use that money she saved towards buying me drinks afterwards :cool:


saving money in this economy = good
 

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As mentioned above coupons do not paint a flattering picture even though they are fiscally sensible.

You want to give the illusion that anything is possible and not place limitations save for how you direct the date itself.

Using a coupon basically can be easily construed a subtle jab at your date, even though it's likely not.

It all depends on your level of comfort because you can get away with it, but usually you either need to be on date 5,6,7 or very good at diffusing the use of a coupon through humor.
 

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The_411 said:
As mentioned above coupons do not paint a flattering picture even though they are fiscally sensible.

You want to give the illusion that anything is possible and not place limitations save for how you direct the date itself.

Using a coupon basically can be easily construed a subtle jab at your date, even though it's likely not.

It all depends on your level of comfort because you can get away with it, but usually you either need to be on date 5,6,7 or very good at diffusing the use of a coupon through humor.

If someone doesnt have the balls to do it in front of her, they can always slide the coupon to their server on the low when they get up to use the restroom.
 

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It's a matter of frame, like anything else. If you say to the woman from the beginning, "Hey, I got a coupon to ___. Let's go there," then there's nothing to be embarrassed of. If she likes you, she'll go. It's also a subtle neg-hit that shows that you are not sucking up to her.
 
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