"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Do you use Coupons on First Dates?

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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SoSuaveDude

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yeah brah. especially the mcdonalds ones. Buy on big mac and get a free coke and small fries for your date. Can't say she ever complains!
 

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The first couple dates for me generally aren't dining dates unless it's a quick smoothie/coffee/happy-hour date, which gives me an easy out if my date turns out to be insane or some-such. Otherwise I like to do things: hiking, ice skating, local tourist attraction sort of thing. That way I am usually doing something I'd want to do or like doing anyway. If the date turns out well an impulsive bite to eat can follow.

I wouldn't use a coupon early on... that's just isn't exciting. At all. In my opinion it shows that you are more interested in yourself than you are in her or the date.

How would it seem to you if the girl you are out on a first date with busts out a coupon at the end of your dinner? For me, it'd be off-putting and a turn-off. It would signal to me that she didn't suggest the place because she thought it would be a good spot for a date, but she did it so she wouldn't have to pay as much as going somewhere else; thus her priority not being me or the date.

Coupons are for friends and established relationships.
 

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SoSuaveDude said:
yeah brah. especially the mcdonalds ones. Buy on big mac and get a free coke and small fries for your date. Can't say she ever complains!
It's funny... based on what I read on this site, to this I can safely say "not sure if serious..."

IMO, using coupons is not rec. because the negatives outweigh the positives. The negatives here being her thinking you are a cheap f*ck, and the positives being that she MIGHT notice you are not needy because you did this.
 

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Any woman that would frown upon me saving money on overpriced food is not the woman for me...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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J Roc

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Cashew said:
How would it seem to you if the girl you are out on a first date with busts out a coupon at the end of your dinner? For me, it'd be off-putting and a turn-off. It would signal to me that she didn't suggest the place because she thought it would be a good spot for a date, but she did it so she wouldn't have to pay as much as going somewhere else; thus her priority not being me or the date.
The wouldnt be a turn off for me. It just means she saved $10 and will use that money she saved towards buying me drinks afterwards :cool:


saving money in this economy = good
 

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As mentioned above coupons do not paint a flattering picture even though they are fiscally sensible.

You want to give the illusion that anything is possible and not place limitations save for how you direct the date itself.

Using a coupon basically can be easily construed a subtle jab at your date, even though it's likely not.

It all depends on your level of comfort because you can get away with it, but usually you either need to be on date 5,6,7 or very good at diffusing the use of a coupon through humor.
 

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The_411 said:
As mentioned above coupons do not paint a flattering picture even though they are fiscally sensible.

You want to give the illusion that anything is possible and not place limitations save for how you direct the date itself.

Using a coupon basically can be easily construed a subtle jab at your date, even though it's likely not.

It all depends on your level of comfort because you can get away with it, but usually you either need to be on date 5,6,7 or very good at diffusing the use of a coupon through humor.

If someone doesnt have the balls to do it in front of her, they can always slide the coupon to their server on the low when they get up to use the restroom.
 

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It's a matter of frame, like anything else. If you say to the woman from the beginning, "Hey, I got a coupon to ___. Let's go there," then there's nothing to be embarrassed of. If she likes you, she'll go. It's also a subtle neg-hit that shows that you are not sucking up to her.
 
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