Do you trust women?

[JohnJones]

Ideally, if I've done right for myself, I don't really need to trust them, or anyone. This frees me to enjoy them for what they can offer, not what I wish, hope, need or have to trust them to offer.

Put it another way, I don't exactly trust my kids (in the sense of depending on them for something I need) -- I may trust them to do things I've taught them, trust that they won't injure themselves, etc -- but I don't rely on them for emotional back up or support, so I don't need to trust them in that way.

 

[TheTrader]

'Authentic' trust has more to do with yourself than it does the other person.

Just something to consider.

can you expand on that?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

can you expand on that?

Trust is not about how much you trust one person or another to do right or wrong. How much you trust another person deals with how much you trust yourself to be strong enough to effectively deal with any events or situations that the other person may cause.

Unless you have faith in yourself to willingly put yourself on the line with a woman without any guarantee of what will happen next, you will always be suspicious of women, looking for the worse. If you're overly suspicious of women and what they may do it's because you're afraid of what you can or can't do or dealing with your own imperfections, it's not about the other person.

 

[Jariel]

Trust is not about how much you trust one person or another to do right or wrong. How much you trust another person deals with how much you trust yourself to be strong enough to effectively deal with any events or situations that the other person may cause.

Unless you have faith in yourself to willingly put yourself on the line with a woman without any guarantee of what will happen next, you will always be suspicious of women, looking for the worse. If you're overly suspicious of women and what they may do it's because you're afraid of what you can or can't do or dealing with your own imperfections, it's not about the other person.

I agree and this is a point I was going to get to, except you beat me to it and said it better than I would have.

I believe letting your guard down and trusting people takes self confidence and balls. Trusting anyone is a risk, but we're men and not supposed to be afraid of risks.

Basically, a lot of guys here are scared of being betrayed and hurt because they don't know how to handle it and move on.

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

start off not trusting them, and watch their honesty and trustworthy over time and I usually throw out small loops to prove their trustworthiness.

but I have been fortunate to find a few I trust very much

 

[Shiftkey]

I trust women as much as I trust men. I don't consider women any less trustworthy than men, and judge based on the individual. I also tend to be trusting of people in general.

 

[Deep Dish]

I was split between mostly trusting and individually judgemental. My first visceral response was "mostly trusting", because I'm naturally trusting of people in general, but then I thought of all the female land sharks I've come across and elected to stay safe with "individually judgemental." I'm easy to gain trust but I do excercise healthy cautionary skepticism when I feel its warranted.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Like Jariel said, most times concerns about trust is about guys who are afraid of the unknown.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Bump. Please vote if you haven't already.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I trust them to, on average, make decisions on a different basis than men. To men the objective truth has more value than to women. To women, what is safe has more value. Safety for themselves and those around them. If that means hiding truths, or betraying honor, then they will do so. I don't believe the word honor has much meaning to them - it is far too abstract, and doesn't provide any safety.

For example: a man may choose a battle he knows he cannot win simply because it is the honorable thing to do. He knows he'll go down - that could mean getting his grades lowered, being ostracized, getting beaten up, or being shot in the battlefield - but he feels that honor compels him; he may feel that maybe it will set an example and do some good that way, or simply that honor itself is worth something.

To women, I believe, this is incomprehensible. Granted: it is, today, incomprehensible to many Western men as well, immature and soft and modern as most of them are. But to women, even more so. I know I have never in my whole life heard a woman speak of honor, but I have heard men speak of it. Women seem to hate the concept.

So do I trust women? I trust them to act in accordance with their nature. They will help me if it is safe or neutral for them to do so, not otherwise.

So true. I had a woman witness a fight in the workplace between me and this thug dude, and when I asked her in front of the supervisor who started it? She said that she didn't know, that she had her back turned and was not looking (when I know she saw him push me first as she was standing right across from me). She IS weak, didn't want to get involved or take a stand for what is right (and vindicate me). We were "friends" though married she was, but she was just out for herself in the end. So eventually because of this incident I was fired.

When you ask a woman a question point blank in front of an authority figure (our boss) and she lies outright to your face to cover her ass, this is not honorable behavior, it's lay-over-and-fvck-me-in-the-ass type behavior. So no, 50% of the women I cannot trust.

This is a woman I can trust, and I have met these kind who do the right thing, most of the time at least: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5k-Z0xaGI_8

 

[Obsidian]

f*ck that. The girl in Gladiator is weak as hell.

and my answer is "Rarely"

 

[Desdinova]

I trust a woman's actions. I have yet to see them lie. Her words on the other hand...

 

[Aboleo]

I judge everyone individually. Which is to say, I don't 'trust' anyone. A woman can break your heart, a man can stab you in the back. As the saying goes, "In God we Trust- all others must pay cash."