I think that unless you're incredibly good looking, it's useless because girls will think you're creepy. I'm not saying you won't get laid from them but the success rate will be so low and the amount of time spent will be so much that it wouldn't be worth it in the end.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
do you think cold approaches are a waste of time?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
VikingKing
Banned
Just do it with the goal in mind to get comfortable doing it, and then later you can work on the rest.
It can be a waste of time depending on your attitude towards cold approach and what your end goal is. As it's been said, you should look at it as developing a skill. If you want to do it to bang 10s all the time, and never come off as creepy then yes it is a waste of time.nitsuj said:
Think of it like baseball. If you consistently get on base 3 out of every 10 at-bats, you're golden, and considered very, very good.
Same goes for people who do a lot of cold approach, like pick up artists. You're not gonna get to bang every girl you approach. Far from it. Even the best naturals in the world don't have a high lay percentage. It's the quality and types of girls that make you good. And eventually learning how to not come off as a creeper all the time.
And just because I mention PUAs, doesn't mean you should turn into a super douche who goes around in a fuzzy hat using canned line after canned line.
Read the DJ Bible.
I remember Paul Janka saying his lay rate was only 10% which is surprising because he looks like a male modelTheStig said:
I just think the time spent cold approaching could be spent working on your looks, money, status and confidence
Some people lose their minds after so many rejections
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Dust 2 Dust
Master Don Juan
It's not a waste of time, but it's fairly average to get shot down, flaked on, IHAB'd 90% of the time.
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Try hot approach then 
no, i got 5 lays last year from cold approaches (granted a couple were so low on the HB scale, and those low HB days are over).
just had a date thursday with a decent 24 year old harvard grad i picked up on the sidewalk.
just had a date thursday with a decent 24 year old harvard grad i picked up on the sidewalk.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
VikingKing
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Lol.Darkwolf32 said:Try hot approach then
Mr Wright
Master Don Juan
Nope, today I met a really cute girl today whilst looking for an upgrade for my phone. We chatted for about 20 minutes, nice chat, we exchanged contact details and we're meeting up tomorrow. Need to go back to really get a good look at a new phone though :/
You should always cold approach. 90% of the chicks I've been with were because of cold approaching. The more you do it the better you get at it.
There are a lot of dudes who wait for a chick to give them eye contact and all that but you don't need to do that. You will always get more chicks by doing cold approach than waiting around for a chick to give you eye contact or signals or whatever you are waiting for.
There are a lot of dudes who wait for a chick to give them eye contact and all that but you don't need to do that. You will always get more chicks by doing cold approach than waiting around for a chick to give you eye contact or signals or whatever you are waiting for.