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I just used history to try to explain how the EC has never worked as he wants to believe it does and its creators in fact intended to use it to prevent the justice he claims it promotes, but it's like his brain refuses to acknowledge the evidence I give. This is the second thread it happens in. Can you tell me what the fvck is going on? it's like I just can't reach him.
As i already stated, whether or not the Founding Fathers were slave owners doesnt diminish tge fact that a check on majoritarian is a good thing.....
 

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As i already stated, whether or not the Founding Fathers were slave owners doesnt diminish tge fact that a check on majoritarian is a good thing.....
It's a check on immorality which is a good thing, not an arbitrary check on majoritarianism to enable an equivalent "tyranny of the minority". History proves this.
 

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As i already stated, whether or not the Founding Fathers were slave owners doesnt diminish tge fact that a check on majoritarian is a good thing.....
Cut the bullshvt. You like the electoral college, Russia, and voter suppression as long as it favors Trump. You’ll endorse naked cheating. There’s no principle in your argument.
 

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It's a check on immorality which is a good thing, not an arbitrary check on majoritarianism to enable an equivalent "tyranny of the minority".
Re-read what you wrote and re-read what i wrote:

"After the Civil War, there was a more or less uneasy Republican coalition between the freed blacks and about 20-25% of the white voters "

the EC by design encourages dialogue, cooperation and compromise because the majority cannot just simply overrule the minority....

This proves the EC is an effective check that prevents the Tyranny of 51% ruling 100% of the time....

....it is to be saluted.....
 

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I give up.

We'll see what happens in the 2020 election.
 

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Dont give up, i like poking holes in the leftist narrative.... We can do this all day all week until the mods shut it down....
I have shown you history, not a "leftist narrative". You are in your own delusion man.
 

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I have shown you history, not a "leftist narrative". You are in your own delusion man.
But the history you presented highlights my point:

"After the Civil War, there was a more or less uneasy Republican coalition between the freed blacks and about 20-25% of the white voters"

building a coalition, engaging in dialogue, and both sides accepting compromises is what civilized society should aspire to....which is the purpose of the EC....

.....Democracy is mob rule that simply allows for the 51% to shut down the voice of the 49%....surely you'd agree that this is not moral or civilized....
 

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The EC wasn't the forum where the coalition was built, nor where the dialogue was conducted, and the "compromises" that the EC has induced have been on morality for the worse - just as its slavedriving founders intended. The mere fact that they founded and used it to sponsor immorality disproves your notion that you can "discount" the gross immorality that the EC presided over in favor of some ephemeral and arbitrary "principle", which conveniently aligns with your political aspirations. If it really did what you claim it does, then immoral people wouldn't have been able to use or found it for intentionally immoral purposes.

The evidence is that it's moral philosophy, not the political system itself which ultimately determines the outcome, and that preventing a "tyranny of the majority" by instituting a "tyranny of the minority" is a gravely flawed willful ignorance.

Your second point is just a replay of your initial go to soundbite that I've used history and philosophy to get you to reconsider, I won't repeat it.
 
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The democratic party seems to subscribe to the belief of the Tyranny of 51%....otherwise they wouldn't have implemented the super delegate system....which is basically the EC-Lite....
It does beg the question of why they bother to pretend to have an election, when they just appoint a candidate if they don't like the people's choice.
 

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The EC wasn't the forum where the coalition was built, nor where the dialogue was conducted, and the "compromises" that the EC has induced have been on morality for the worse - just as its slavedriving founders intended. The mere fact that they founded and used it to sponsor immorality disproves your notion that you can "discount" the gross immorality that the EC presided over in favor of some ephemeral and arbitrary "principle" which conveniently aligns with your political aspirations. If it really did what you claim it does, then immoral people wouldn't have founded it or been able to use it for immoral purposes.

Your second point is just a replay of your initial go to soundbite that I've used history and philosophy to get you to reconsider, I won't repeat it.
There is a new book out about George Washington. The author mentions that he was always getting mad at his slaves for not taking pride in their work. It was like he was too dense to understand that they didn't want to be there.
 

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It does beg the question of why they bother to pretend to have an election, when they just appoint a candidate if they don't like the people's choice.
The DNC are hypocrites that change their stance based on what suits them..... They want a popular vote to decide the General Election, but within their own party they want an EC-Lite system to prevent the tyranny of the majority....the majority being a bunch of blue-haired socialists led by millionaire Bernie who owns three houses....hypocrisy...
 

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The DNC are hypocrites that change their stance based on what suits them..... They want a popular vote to decide the General Election, but within their own party they want an EC-Lite system to prevent the tyranny of the majority....the majority being a bunch of blue-haired socialists led by millionaire Bernie who owns three houses....hypocrisy...
Didn’t Trump get caught committing treason again yesterday?
 

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The EC wasn't the forum where the coalition was built, nor where the dialogue was conducted, and the "compromises" that the EC has induced have been on morality for the worse - just as its slavedriving founders intended. The mere fact that they founded and used it to sponsor immorality disproves your notion that you can "discount" the gross immorality that the EC presided over in favor of some ephemeral and arbitrary "principle", which conveniently aligns with your political aspirations. If it really did what you claim it does, then immoral people wouldn't have been able to use or found it for intentionally immoral purposes.

The evidence is that it's moral philosophy, not the political system itself which ultimately determines the outcome, and that preventing a "tyranny of the majority" by instituting a "tyranny of the minority" is a gravely flawed willful ignorance.

Your second point is just a replay of your initial go to soundbite that I've used history and philosophy to get you to reconsider, I won't repeat it.
Bear in mind at at the inception of the EC that Blacks and women could not vote, therefore to suggest that the EC was implement to suppress Black and female votes is a mis-characterization....

.... The EC is a mechanism to encourage coalition and dialogue.....
 

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Didn’t Trump get caught committing treason again yesterday?
Let me catch up on my news cycle and get back to you once I've reviewed the facts.... I dont jump to conclusion just because I like or dislike someone....you should try to do the same....
 

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Let me catch up on my news cycle and get back to you once I've reviewed the facts.... I dont jump to conclusion just because I like or dislike someone....you should try to do the same....

You good with Trump enlisting Russia to cheat again?
 

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There is a new book out about George Washington. The author mentions that he was always getting mad at his slaves for not taking pride in their work. It was like he was too dense to understand that they didn't want to be there.
The evil that the human mind can conduct and justify or detach from is surreal...

Children with their limbs chopped off by the force publique in Belgian Congo...

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One of the different kinds of torture implements in the USA south

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Taking the kids out to a picnic lynching spectacle and turning them into postcards...

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Japanese soldiers bayonetting babies in WW2's Nanjing Massacre, presumably after gang raping their mothers...

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Children in Nazi German concentration camp

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You good with Trump enlisting Russia to cheat again?
A wise man doesnt rely on only one source for his news....as news outlets have their own narratives to advance.... I'll be reviewing from several sources to cross check, until that time I reserve judgement....
 
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