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Do you talk to your girls during the week?

bearfan34201

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Something that has stumped me is I made plans to hang out with this good looking blonde I met last friday. We kissed and kino'd.That good stuff.

But what I've noticed with the other girls I hooked up with over the summer is that I would wait to talk to them for a few days or whatever. And they would lose intrest cause I never called them,talked to them, yada yada.

I don't want to just call up and say "HEY!! HOW WAS UR DAY!!". But I would like to just talk to them, keep there intrest level high. Because it seems that they lose intrest if I don't talk to them in a week or whatever.


Any ideas? Suggestions?
 

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I don't want to a be a little friend and call her and listen to her problems.


But it seems that the girls just know that I only call to hook up, and all that.

Basically waht I'm trying to say is what a friend of mine said about me and my buddy. "They can rake in the girls, Man they do. But they have no idea how to keep them".


I just don't know how to keep them around.
 

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You don't have to stay on the phone all night listening to her problems. Keep the phone conversations short.
 

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Lucas718 said:
You don't have to stay on the phone all night listening to her problems. Keep the phone conversations short.
Yeah, as newbieish as it sounds. What would I talk about?
 

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It really doesn't matter what you talk about. Ask her a few questions about something you want to know about her.

Use the phone to set up the date, ask a few questions, then save the rest of the conversation for the date.

Do a search on the forums, there have been lots of topics about this.
 

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Lucas718 said:
It really doesn't matter what you talk about. Ask her a few questions about something you want to know about her.

Use the phone to set up the date, ask a few questions, then save the rest of the conversation for the date.

Do a search on the forums, there have been lots of topics about this.
She wants to hang out with me saturday, So we already made plans for that. So there wouldnt be a point to calling her unless I just wanted to "talk".
 

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Do not call her. You keep them around by fvcking them.
 

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I call women whenever I feel like it. There is some situations where doing too much, too soon can drive women away. However, this is usually a result of guys who are *exceptionally* needy and who believe if she leaves him he willl *never* find another woman again. The attitude would've driven her away sooner of later anyway, because no woman wants a man who has that extreme low of a self-concept. He's equivilent to a woman who smokes crack and sleeps with street beggers.

If you always avoid women because you're afraid that you are inadequete and unable to remain interesting to women, then a self-fuffiling prophecy is about to unfold. Most times women haven't wanted to escalate beyond once a week sex is because they were in a LTR with another guy before I ever met them. Often, women that I rarely contacted got frustrated and eventually disappeared (but not always).

The difference is this... she has to feel like she's winning you over, that you're not a feminine wussbag or a gross, unhygentic guy who would settle for anyone. She wants to feel like she's special, and she's doing things she read in COSMO and covertly winning you over throughout a period of time..when she does something that makes you mad, use the cute routine as described by PU101, I use that occasionally and it works well. If she's shi1t testing you hard and you're about to blow up, you can tell her she looks tired. I use that one on rare occasions and it always stop them dead in their tracks and reserves the direction of the mometum back to nuetral
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I personally think you're on the edge of a cliff, where sosuave is about to negatively influence you. When you start interpreting everything as a sh1t test, feeling that women are so much more powerful than you that you must avoid them or wait days before calling, and not recognizing the value you already have to offer the world, that's when being on this boards will crash your success with women down to nothing.

Here's the truth. Women have a hard time finding and keeping men. That's why they think all men worth having are taken. All they get are losers who either want their hand in marriage by the third date and throw money at them and cry if they say anything bad or guys who are too afraid to admit their interest. The problem with the later is women know he is interested, but he is too insecure to do anything about it. It is coming from a place of "trying hard" to be cool. It is incredibly obvious even to me (a guy). Neither of these extremes are good. These are recipes for ending up an unhappy little man who views the world around him as constant threat to his fragile ego.
 

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everywomanshero said:
I call women whenever I feel like it. There is some situations where doing too much, too soon can drive women away. However, this is usually a result of guys who are *exceptionally* needy and who believe if she leaves him he willl *never* find another woman again. The attitude would've driven her away sooner of later anyway, because no woman wants a man who has that extreme low of a self-concept. He's equivilent to a woman who smokes crack and sleeps with street beggers.

If you always avoid women because you're afraid that you are inadequete and unable to remain interesting to women, then a self-fuffiling prophecy is about to unfold. Most times women haven't wanted to escalate beyond once a week sex is because they were in a LTR with another guy before I ever met them. Often, women that I rarely contacted got frustrated and eventually disappeared (but not always).

The difference is this... she has to feel like she's winning you over, that you're not a feminine wussbag or a gross, unhygentic guy who would settle for anyone. She wants to feel like she's special, and she's doing things she read in COSMO and covertly winning you over throughout a period of time..when she does something that makes you mad, use the cute routine as described by PU101, I use that occasionally and it works well.

Really good post, I took alot of what you said to heart. And yeah I realized that I need to start seeing more women. I don't want to just bang them and leave them. I want to get to know them. That doesnt mean Im becoming a AFC. I want to get to know alot of girls and establish something with them. I can tell which girls I will just 'hook up' with and have no interest in getting to know. And I can tell which ones I want to actually get to know.


So what would you say. Call them? Discuss dating, Relationships? No the typical bull**** of "how was ur day". Crap
 

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This is the one instance that I feel that texting is a good solution. Not to have entire conversations mind you, just to send a quick message (not expecting a reply) just to let her know that I was thinking about her. I just send an email to her cell:

Message from Francisco:
"Hey, just running to a meeting and was wondering if you were wearing underwear today; just curious."


It's short, I let her know that I don't have time for a conversation and its flirty letting I know that I was thinking about her. It only takes a minute.
 

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She wants to hang out with me saturday, So we already made plans for that. So there wouldnt be a point to calling her unless I just wanted to "talk".
You agree to hang out on saturday. Then you call thursday (or whaterver, you decide) and propose an hour and place to meet.
 

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bearfan34201 said:
Really good post, I took alot of what you said to heart. And yeah I realized that I need to start seeing more women. I don't want to just bang them and leave them. I want to get to know them. That doesnt mean Im becoming a AFC. I want to get to know alot of girls and establish something with them. I can tell which girls I will just 'hook up' with and have no interest in getting to know. And I can tell which ones I want to actually get to know.


So what would you say. Call them? Discuss dating, Relationships? No the typical bull**** of "how was ur day". Crap
I would not want to have scheduled phone calls. I would want to just call her when I could and felt like it. If she wanted to talk at specific times I'd just say "great give me a buzz then". If you're worried she won't bother, you can always txt her and say "I'm waiting......". This isn't some club girl you tongued! No need to fear what's she thinking.

The thing with AFC stuff... the reason women didn't like it before is because of the WAY we used to do it. The way desperate men do it. They want something from her, so they bribe her with things. I can do the same things that used to drive women away now, and now it will work. The timing, the "tension" on the power line as David D. tends to describe it, we are aware of these things now. We pretty much know what is too much and what is not enough.

You are already past that stage, that's not who you are anymore. You can do things that an AFC would get dusted for. As Shark once told me, you know you're on the right track when LTRs get in the way of sarging. You learn 10x more from relationships than haunting bars in my opinion anyway. The reason guys never learned from LTRs as much in the past, is they simply didn't know how to look for the information.
 

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I call whenever I feel like it, so that it's completely unexpected for her. If she starts talking about herself I find something to tease her about, until she giggles and says "You're so mean!" I'll get her to do silly stuff and just be spontaneous and funny. After five minutes or so I end the conversation. Gets her laughing and thinking about me more than anyone else for the rest of the day.
 

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I agree with LTR's getting in the way of Sarging. In a way I like the fact that I found a girl on my own, No "he said she said cute" bs. I just went up and talked to her. But I still plan on going after girls that look interesting too me.


She left me a text asking to call her 2 days ago, I didnt see it till yesterday. I called, she called me back, I called her after work and she didnt pick up LOL.

She wants to go to homecoming with me, According to my friend, she wants to bring me to her dance.


Intresting, I was half thinking about bringing her to mine. The girls at my school are like little *****es. Realize I'm with someone and they all flock over to me and try to flirt. It's quite funny lol.

I still can't wait for college next year.
 
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