tony-montana
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or it doesn't matter if you're early?
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
do you purposely be late on your dates to not look desperate?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Diaforetikos
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Your the man. You get to choose your lifestyle habits. So if you wanna be late, be late. And if you wanna be early, be early. But decided in your mind why you made that's choice.
Become a man of your own standards. For me personally, being late for anything shows that I'm not a man of integrity, so I try not to be late. But its your choice.
And to be honest, its not that big of deal, so don't make it seem like one. You got other crap you need to be thinking about on this date.
Good luck.
Become a man of your own standards. For me personally, being late for anything shows that I'm not a man of integrity, so I try not to be late. But its your choice.
And to be honest, its not that big of deal, so don't make it seem like one. You got other crap you need to be thinking about on this date.
Good luck.
Deadly_Ripped
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I try really hard not to be late on the first few dates. Why waste your time and theirs unnecessarily?
That's just being a dkci for the sake being a dkci. I think it may be perceived as a DHV, but ultimately you're just being rude and inconsiderate.
Lots of other ways to DHV.
That's just being a dkci for the sake being a dkci. I think it may be perceived as a DHV, but ultimately you're just being rude and inconsiderate.
Lots of other ways to DHV.
powpow
Senior Don Juan
Man try not to be late. Thats lame. Any girl with standards will see it as a DLV.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
iliketennis
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don't be late
Bonafide
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Why be late for something you both planned? Your supposed to be there, so is she...if your late that shows lack of organization
Iceberg
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I'm usually 15 minutes early. I like sitting down, relaxing and getting a feel for the environment before the girl shows up.
Besides, what's the point of trying to look "too cool" for a date that YOU set up?
Besides, what's the point of trying to look "too cool" for a date that YOU set up?
everywomanshero
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That's starting with defeat already anticipated. What kind of confidence is that, where you have to start off assuming the worst?
Korrupt
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I'm not late unless I don't know the area.tony-montana said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Mike32ct
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I like to be on time because I like to keep my word. I see no reason to be late.
tony-montana
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sounds good. i might go extra early, get some money out and check out the coffee shop and environment. i hate rushing, i like to be ready and planned cause then i get nervous and stressedIceberg said:
I was late to a first date and she was busting my balls over it. I woke up late what could I do.
One time I was so late to another first date that she went home. She was a nice girl too, a virgin, smart, read books, never had a boyfriend. I messed up big time as that first date was going to be the start of something for sure. Considering that i'm living in america that's the last chance I will get to date a virgin
Being late already cost me 2 girls which both had shown interest in me first.
One time I was so late to another first date that she went home. She was a nice girl too, a virgin, smart, read books, never had a boyfriend. I messed up big time as that first date was going to be the start of something for sure. Considering that i'm living in america that's the last chance I will get to date a virgin
Being late already cost me 2 girls which both had shown interest in me first.
tony-montana
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LOL damn, that would of really pissed me off if i missed out on that opportunity!f283000 said:I was late to a first date and she was busting my balls over it. I woke up late what could I do.
One time I was so late to another first date that she went home. She was a nice girl too, a virgin, smart, read books, never had a boyfriend. I messed up big time as that first date was going to be the start of something for sure. Considering that i'm living in america that's the last chance I will get to date a virgin
Being late already cost me 2 girls which both had shown interest in me first.
I do my best to never be late for anything. Especially with someone that I want to associate any positive thoughts about me (date, job, friends, etc). I find it completely disrespectful, lazy, and unorganized to make a plan for something and not follow through.
I'm sure not everyone feels as strongly about it as me, but since I know I am like that, I'm gonna assume the people I'm meeting do as well.
I'm sure not everyone feels as strongly about it as me, but since I know I am like that, I'm gonna assume the people I'm meeting do as well.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.