tony-montana
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or it doesn't matter if you're early?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
do you purposely be late on your dates to not look desperate?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Diaforetikos
Senior Don Juan
Your the man. You get to choose your lifestyle habits. So if you wanna be late, be late. And if you wanna be early, be early. But decided in your mind why you made that's choice.
Become a man of your own standards. For me personally, being late for anything shows that I'm not a man of integrity, so I try not to be late. But its your choice.
And to be honest, its not that big of deal, so don't make it seem like one. You got other crap you need to be thinking about on this date.
Good luck.
Become a man of your own standards. For me personally, being late for anything shows that I'm not a man of integrity, so I try not to be late. But its your choice.
And to be honest, its not that big of deal, so don't make it seem like one. You got other crap you need to be thinking about on this date.
Good luck.
Deadly_Ripped
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I try really hard not to be late on the first few dates. Why waste your time and theirs unnecessarily?
That's just being a dkci for the sake being a dkci. I think it may be perceived as a DHV, but ultimately you're just being rude and inconsiderate.
Lots of other ways to DHV.
That's just being a dkci for the sake being a dkci. I think it may be perceived as a DHV, but ultimately you're just being rude and inconsiderate.
Lots of other ways to DHV.
powpow
Senior Don Juan
Man try not to be late. Thats lame. Any girl with standards will see it as a DLV.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
iliketennis
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don't be late
Bonafide
Senior Don Juan
Why be late for something you both planned? Your supposed to be there, so is she...if your late that shows lack of organization
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
I'm usually 15 minutes early. I like sitting down, relaxing and getting a feel for the environment before the girl shows up.
Besides, what's the point of trying to look "too cool" for a date that YOU set up?
Besides, what's the point of trying to look "too cool" for a date that YOU set up?
everywomanshero
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That's starting with defeat already anticipated. What kind of confidence is that, where you have to start off assuming the worst?
Korrupt
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I'm not late unless I don't know the area.tony-montana said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Mike32ct
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I like to be on time because I like to keep my word. I see no reason to be late.
tony-montana
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sounds good. i might go extra early, get some money out and check out the coffee shop and environment. i hate rushing, i like to be ready and planned cause then i get nervous and stressedIceberg said:
I was late to a first date and she was busting my balls over it. I woke up late what could I do.
One time I was so late to another first date that she went home. She was a nice girl too, a virgin, smart, read books, never had a boyfriend. I messed up big time as that first date was going to be the start of something for sure. Considering that i'm living in america that's the last chance I will get to date a virgin
Being late already cost me 2 girls which both had shown interest in me first.
One time I was so late to another first date that she went home. She was a nice girl too, a virgin, smart, read books, never had a boyfriend. I messed up big time as that first date was going to be the start of something for sure. Considering that i'm living in america that's the last chance I will get to date a virgin
Being late already cost me 2 girls which both had shown interest in me first.
tony-montana
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LOL damn, that would of really pissed me off if i missed out on that opportunity!f283000 said:I was late to a first date and she was busting my balls over it. I woke up late what could I do.
One time I was so late to another first date that she went home. She was a nice girl too, a virgin, smart, read books, never had a boyfriend. I messed up big time as that first date was going to be the start of something for sure. Considering that i'm living in america that's the last chance I will get to date a virgin
Being late already cost me 2 girls which both had shown interest in me first.
I do my best to never be late for anything. Especially with someone that I want to associate any positive thoughts about me (date, job, friends, etc). I find it completely disrespectful, lazy, and unorganized to make a plan for something and not follow through.
I'm sure not everyone feels as strongly about it as me, but since I know I am like that, I'm gonna assume the people I'm meeting do as well.
I'm sure not everyone feels as strongly about it as me, but since I know I am like that, I'm gonna assume the people I'm meeting do as well.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.