"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Do you have a minimum age?

JohnnyStorm

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My friend was telling me the other day about his mate who is 28 and dating an 18 year old. By all accounts they're doing alright and have been together for two years. All of the people I was out with thought this was disgusting. We're all the same age, late twenties ish.
I was initially putting this down to butthurtness from my friend, as he had just split up from his girlfriend, but not a single one in the group thought it was appropriate for a man to be doing. I don't know whether my guy friends just wanted to go along and agree with the girls in the group, but they appeared disgusted too.

Does anyone have a minimum age range that they won't go below or does it depend on the maturity of the individual and whether anyone else will find out?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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sylvester the cat

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Your friends would hate me. I'm a 41 year old dating a 26 year old.
 

El Payaso

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Those same women in your group would not hesitate to date a man 10 years older than them if he swept them off their feet. They're just butt-hurt.

The guys were just agreeing in typical beta fashion.
 
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Rex Says

Whatever the age of consent is in the state that i happen to be in at that time.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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RangerMIke

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Used to not anymore. For the longest time I would never date anyone that was 18 years younger than I, but this year I just said the hell with all rules.

So for me, in the past, anyone in her 20s would have been off limits.

This month I've had first dates with 3 women, all of them are in their 20s. I used to think that they were different and it was creepy dating younger women, but they are the same, and it's not at all creepy... Besides I have to admit I get a kick out of seeing the looks on older couple's faces when I walk into a restaurant with someone half my age.
 
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TheMonkeyKing

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Had a fling with an 18yr old German model last year. Every guy in my local boozer was hounding her for weeks and TMK did the deed.... :D

Why? Because I didn't chase like the rest.

That's as young as I'd go though.

Guys that give you grief are jealous and bored of their relationships with boring women. Same goes for the women who give you grief.
 

GS750

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21 is the lowest I'll go, I'm 34. Girls in their early-mid 20's seem to like me, so I'm not complaining.
 

Huffman

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For sex? Legal minimum.

For proper dating? I judge by character. While being stupid and young sometimes seems related, it doesn't have to be ;)
 

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At the age of 31, Ive been out with girls ranged from 19 to 21 and that's my low limit. They were extremely hot so I couldn't help it lol.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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JdelaSilviera

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Legal minimum... 18 year old is already an adult. Most guys (whatever age) drool over 18-23 years old ( so the betas who are morally against it are just being hypocrites). In my experience older women are just more desperate and neurotic (being way less sexy of course). Some "older" (late twenties and beyond) might look reasonably sexy with their work suits but put them on the beach next to a typical 18 year old and they just look ridiculous... Do not listen women advice on dating younger chicks as they will always tell you to move away and find someone your age, they just envy to death young hot women
 

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I touched a 15 year old the other day. It depends on height/bone structure in my opinion because some look a lot older than 15-16... But legal age would be safe and I would try and fit into whatever the legal age is in your area...
 

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The minimum legal age is 16, so 16. If they give consent then all is good, to hell with people saying men are creepy and women are innocent.

I know a guy who is married to a woman 19 years younger than him and they have a kid and their own place. He met and stated dating her when she was in school. All is going well for them.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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adam225

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Wow, I'm 28 and the lowest I'll go is 24 (and that's pushing it).

I could of got with a 22 year old girl last night but I made it clear that she was too young. The such an age gap just seems wrong in my eyes.
 

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Frayzer said:
I touched a 15 year old the other day. It depends on height/bone structure in my opinion because some look a lot older than 15-16... But legal age would be safe and I would try and fit into whatever the legal age is in your area...
Careful some people will call you a pedophile for that. There's some kind of double standards it's ok for a 15yo with 16-17 but not with an older guy.


I would say go with the legal age. Though I think behind closed doors a lot of guys 18-20s wouldn't say no to a hot 15-16 yo that was up for it. Fact is no one is going to admit anything because there's too much sensitivity around the issue these days. I'm sure frayzer slept with that girl but will be afraid to admit it openly due to the reaction it could get.

The reason it's called jail bait is because a lot of guys go for the bait. From an evolutionary perspective it's normal to be attracted to pubescent girls who are well developed physically and a handful of 14-15 year old girls look very developed body wise ie have breasts and fit. It's not worth it to go younger than 16 (in countries where 16 is legal age) simply because of the risk of being convicted as a pedo. But I don't think a guy is doing any mental damage to a girl of 15-16 by having sexual relations with her if she has (and trust me MOST of them have) already lost her virginity.

Most 'hot' girls lose their virginity by 14-15 some even younger and many keep it secret. It's a joke that people think a 20+ with a 16 year old is immoral a lot of 16 year old girls are already sluts and dirty as hell or just emotionally mature girls that have had enough d!ck and relationships to want a mature older guy instead of a young d!ck who just wants sex.

It depends how old the guy is too. It's way worse for a 30+ guy with a young girl than 20+.

And the general rule of thumb is the older a man is the more likely he is to be labelled a pedophile. I wouldn't go close to the legal limit if I was over 30.
 

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Darth said:
I date girls who are old enough to drink.
This is, in my opinion, a good standard to set. 21 and you're in the clear no matter what. :up:
 

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Nowadays as I'm in my 30s .. my favored range is 21-24, here the ones over 25 are pretty burnt out.. cynical and all in a rush to marry
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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