"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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do you guys ever open with a compliment?

f283000

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oh i see. so it is more important to initiate kino and such than the words?
BOTH

If you open you gotta kino right away or at the same time. Kino is not something you wait "for the right moment" for you just do it! if you wait for the "right moment" you will end up touching a girl an hour later after talking to her and creeping her out instead.

I personally kino with every opener if possible or at least with the 2nd thing I say to her.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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San Jose California said:
. you nerds think too muchif it's something like "nice shoes" or "nice glasses" sure. You nerds think too much
You make a point.

While we're on the subject of thinking too much, how'd that threesome go, chief?

Daaaaaaamn! Flame warz!
 

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San Jose California said:
What's that have to do with thinking too much? Better yet, what's so insulting about pointing out a threesome opportunity?
Define hypocrisy:
Saying, "You nerds think to much," when you, about a week ago, said you have a "threesome opportunity," admitted you were a virgin, and have yet to actually do anything to show improvement in yourself in all your time on this board. Talk to us when you have a threesome, not a "threesome opportunity."

Sh*t. I got a Powerball opportunity right now, you don't see me bragging about it.

At least MoneyIsKing been laid, dude. If anyone thinks too much, it's you, because all you have is theory. Get some experience under that belt, playa.
 

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San Jose California said:
if you've yet to even have a threesome opportunity with two hot girls. Just... don't care, sorry.
Wrong again, playa. Been in... lemme see... 5 or 6 of those. So, I guess I've never had "threesome opportunities" with hot women. Just threesomes.

I love feeding the trolls.
 

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San Jose California said:
So you had threesomes, without having the opportunity? Dumbfuck? I love dealing with guys who think they're cool using nerd slang when really it makes them look nerdy. Listen to me, a troll is a big green monster, that's what it is. Understand? I haven't learned the nerd slang definition and am proud of that fact.
This is like taking candy from a baby that doesn't have arms. And is dead.

Judging by how long you've been here and how little you've succeeded, or done anything of note, you haven't learned much of anything, much less "nerd slang."

Once again. Had that threesome yet? Or still just "opportunities?"

Call me what you want, but it won't get you laid. Oh snap!

Everyone's got opportunities, bud. Winners turn those into success. At least it's some progress on your part to start looking at the bright side of things.

Tell you what - actually go through with the threesome, and I'll genuinely congratulate you. I'll start a new thread here to have everyone celebrate it. I will respect the accomplishment - and at the very worst, you'll be an accomplished douchebag. Nothin' wrong with that.

But, until then, you're just a regular douchebag.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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For the original question, yes, all the time.

Just about everyone I know, from naturals, to PUA students, to chumps open with compliments most of the time. If people claim they never or rarely do they never or rarely get laid.

Breaking their balls alittle is great. But you can't start out that way.
 

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"Approach from an angle. Never make a direct approach. When you are angling for something you will meet resistance that cannot be overcome."

(AOS)
 

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FairShake said:
If people claim they never or rarely do they never or rarely get laid.
You'd be surprised how many times I've seen the opposite be true. I've seen so many people get turned into "chumps" when the girl has her fun feeding off the attention and then moves onward to guys that challenge her.
 

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I have success with really strange openers. I have successes with 'hey weren't you wearing glasses' and 'hey you look like you could do with a private detective' stuff like that
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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there is so much differing opinions on this, but i do agree that girls dig guys that are a challenge. i guess it's kinda both ways though. i know some guys who are really good with girls; they provide challenge but at the same time, they throw some compliments. most of em happen to be a$$sholes, but they also give her compliments time to time
 
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