"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Do you guys actually enjoy being around women?

Down Low

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For some reason this stuck with me this week. I'm at my desk eating my lunch, drinking a diet coke, and chatting with a male co-worker. The new girl, a self-described health-nut strolls over, points at my diet coke and says "You know that's really bad for you right, it has aspartame".

I say, "You know the cancer risk only occurred with supra-physiological doses in LABRATS".

Her, "What?"

"I would have to drink hundreds of liters of diet coke a day to get the same dosage, and I'm not a rodent. There's probably more carcinogens in an apple skin."

"It's still bad for you"

Oh fvck me. "Don't come at me with this stuff again. I will destroy you". I actually said that, it's a wonder I wasn't reported, still laughing about it.

It's that kind of stuff that prevents me from enjoying the company of the average woman. The average dude would have gone "ahhhhh, gotcha", the average girl just falls back on whatever position she has the strongest emotional attachment to. Really weak, I can't respect that.
Women selfishly reason with their feelings. You knocked her for expressing concern for you. That's fine if you never want to screw her.

What she did not know to say, I will. With women, as with all carcinogens, there is no safe minimum level of exposure. The idea that you should befriend women is a cancer that has society on its death bed. Fellow men are for befriending. Women are for fvcking. You don't fvck friends. You fvck lovers. That's a fundamentally different relationship. If you can't understand and appreciate the difference, you're a cancer victim. Get help immediately or it will rot you from the inside out.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Wilko said:
I say, "You know the cancer risk only occurred with supra-physiological doses in LABRATS". Really weak, I can't respect that.
I see, so Wilko knows he's consuming poop, but it's only a little bit of poop.

Note: The words cancer and labrats are not sexy. Besides, she's right.

Aspartame is the single most toxic thing on Earth. It is the fecal matter of genetically modified bacteria, but Wilko likes the sweet flavor without the extra calories because he's watching his waist? Aspartame turns into Formaldehyde when heated above 86 degrees Fahrentheit (the human stomach is about 99 degrees). Formaldehyde causes Methadone Toxicity, Systemic Lupus, Multiple Sclerosis, and Neurotoxicity.

Get off that crap.

Tell that girl she was right and you might get a date.

Never trust a Diet Coke drinker!
 

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bigneil said:
I see, so Wilko knows he's consuming poop, but it's only a little bit of poop.

Note: The words cancer and labrats are not sexy. Besides, she's right.

Aspartame is the single most toxic thing on Earth. It is the fecal matter of genetically modified bacteria, but Wilko likes the sweet flavor without the extra calories because he's watching his waist? Aspartame turns into Formaldehyde when heated above 86 degrees Fahrentheit (the human stomach is about 99 degrees). Formaldehyde causes Methadone Toxicity, Systemic Lupus, Multiple Sclerosis, and Neurotoxicity.

Get off that crap.

Tell that girl she was right and you might get a date.

Never trust a Diet Coke drinker!
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least ten things that are much, much more toxic than Aspartame, including Plutonium, Pollonium, Cianide, Sarin gas, Dioxin, hydrofluoric acid and many more. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose for further confirmation. Aspartame does not "turn into" Formaldehyde inside the human stomach, rather, it is one of the many by-products of its metabolization. Of course, Formaldehyde IS toxic, but as with all toxins, it's all about the dose.

Oh, and if it's things such as "Methadone Toxicity, Systemic Lupus, Multiple Sclerosis, and Neurotoxicity" you're concerned about, well, pretty much your only option is growing your own vegetables in your (hopefully not contaminated) backyard and hunting game, and even then, there's potential toxins everywhere.

What's way more toxic for you than all of this is talking about things you know absolutely nothing about.
 

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See now THIS is what I expect from my boys! Vigorous, well-reasoned, and inflammatory discussion, I love it! That's the real point I'm making in that post.

Bigneil, what's up with the editing on that quote fella???

Doesn't matter, I'm happy to concede those points you made are probably correct. I imagine it is very much an issue of dosage, hell, even assuming that aspartame is incredibly toxic (pound for pound), I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was some sort of beneficial, hormetic effect at the kinds of levels we actually consume it. Calculated risk, as with anything. I actually just like the crisper finish.

And speaking of fecal matter, I don't crap where I eat! Never gamed a girl at work, gives me a chance to take the gloves off occasionally and see what they're actually made of.
 

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Lol @ EastWind. We can't help ourselves! How many women do you think you could enjoy this kind of sparring with?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Wilko said:
Lol @ EastWind. We can't help ourselves! How many women do you think you could enjoy this kind of sparring with?
None. Or rather, if I met a girl who was as quick to spout pseudo-knowledge as bigneil, she'd be off my radar immediately. Being human, I do enjoy knowing things better than others, but I'd want my woman to be smart. That, and to have some actual knowledge about stuff.

That said, this isn't sparring. Sparring means presenting facts or at least 90%-truths and being able to back them up. Here you guys are just way off course scientifically.
 

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Lolling with you, not at you to be more precise.

So, if not sparring, maybe more like the big kid holding the nerd at arms length while he flails away harmlessly?

Women loooooove pseudo-science though (even that is probably being too kind). Astrology, homeopathy, new-age mysticism, all kinds of bollocks, they eat it up. Just wondering how you get on with that? Do you ignore it for the easy lay? I can't, when I fvck a woman, on some level it's still an expression of "hey, I like what you're all about lady". Perhaps that junk isn't quite so prevalent in Germany? Place has a reputation for cold, rational-minded behaviour.
 

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Wilko said:
Lolling with you, not at you to be more precise.

So, if not sparring, maybe more like the big kid holding the nerd at arms length while he flails away harmlessly?
None of that. I'm a nerd myself, so... but there's a special place in my heart for people who loudly pretend to know something while being completely off-track.

Wilko said:
Women loooooove pseudo-science though (even that is probably being too kind). Astrology, homeopathy, new-age mysticism, all kinds of bollocks, they eat it up. Just wondering how you get on with that? Do you ignore it for the easy lay? I can't, when I fvck a woman, on some level it's still an expression of "hey, I like what you're all about lady". Perhaps that junk isn't quite so prevalent in Germany? Place has a reputation for cold, rational-minded behaviour.
Like I wrote in some other thread, everything's easier to listen to when you're expecting to get laid. However, usually in the moment I'm done, I get bored and start to wonder how to get her out of my place. I'm just not mean enough to blatantly throw her ass out. But more and more I find it's not worth listening to pointless and uninteresting blabber just to get laid. Not that this happens all the time.

Every kind of junk there is in the US, we have here too, so don't expect all girls to be enlightened here. I would guess that the average is a bit higher, but "cold, rational-minded behaviour" is not a tag to be affixed to the average girl anywhere.
 
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