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Do you ever turn a plate down for sex?

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After a good date. She wants to come in. Or initiates. You give an excuse.

I have experience and done it multiple times for various reasons. I ****s with them so bad. That it either becomes some evil revenge, them leaving things at your house, or a plate for years to come.

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You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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So some girls either get super devoted or just ghost u after this tactic? I personally dont like to play games like this especially if the connection is good, i feel like theyd see right thru me. Not sure
 

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I did it recently. The girl and i were making out on my sofa, and I knew she wanted more but I stopped things right there and told her that I needed to wake up early in the morning (dumb excuse I know).
Reason being that I currently have no desire for sex and and I knew I would not be able to perform well.
But I think it's never good to turn down a girl for sex. She will most likely see it as unmanly.
 

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I did it recently. The girl and i were making out on my sofa, and I knew she wanted more but I stopped things right there and told her that I needed to wake up early in the morning (dumb excuse I know).
Reason being that I currently have no desire for sex and and I knew I would not be able to perform well.
But I think it's never good to turn down a girl for sex. She will most likely see it as unmanly.
I think real men dont care for sex that much if they have abundance. Its bla for them. I turned down a girl recently cuz she was too sensitive and i figured she wouldnt handle a casual dynamic well. I told her that i turned her down for her own good. I liked her but she was way too raw and emotional, kind of annoying really. She respected me. I did end up banging her eventually twice but then i said it couldnt contineu.
 

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If I’m disciplining a woman I will absolute not allow sex to occur until she relents. Women respect men that can control their urges. And when they respect you the knickers get moist.
 

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I did it recently. The girl and i were making out on my sofa, and I knew she wanted more but I stopped things right there and told her that I needed to wake up early in the morning (dumb excuse I know).
Reason being that I currently have no desire for sex and and I knew I would not be able to perform well.
But I think it's never good to turn down a girl for sex. She will most likely see it as unmanly.
keep a stash of sildenafil 100mg. I got some pills that give me no symptoms just a raging piercing hard on and it adds blood pumping girth.
Pop one 1-2 hours before she pulls up. Take a swig of some wine.
By the time you set the tempo and she still babysits her 2nd glass of wine then you will be ready to take it downtown my guy
 

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If I’m disciplining a woman I will absolute not allow sex to occur until she relents. Women respect men that can control their urges. And when they respect you the knickers get moist.
Ive never implemented this tactic. How does it work? She comes over and if lets say she said something out of turn the week prior, u make her wait a few hours? I cant imagine u inviting a girl over (especially a plate) and then just turning her down bc what would be the point? U basically gave her your time for nothing in return
 

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keep a stash of sildenafil 100mg. I got some pills that give me no symptoms just a raging piercing hard on and it adds blood pumping girth.
Pop one 1-2 hours before she pulls up. Take a swig of some wine.
By the time you set the tempo and she still babysits her 2nd glass of wine then you will be ready to take it downtown my guy
Thanks that might be a good idea but I would prefer to solve this issue without relying on drugs. I will try noporn / nofap first.
 

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She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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So, first off it’s something I use with a woman no matter her status, plate or otherwise.

Sex is a big draw in any relationship I have with a woman, as I highly sexualize my relationships and pick women that have a drive that is similar to mine which is high. When I meet with a woman the default expectation is sex for both of us, she’s coming over or I’m headed to her and there will be at least an hour or several of vigorous sex.

Let’s say for example the woman I’m seeing that day and I have have a little spat about something, could be anything. Let’s imagine she says something disrespectful to me in conversation, I correct her and she does not back down, it then turns into an argument and unpleasant. I will withhold sex, or tell her to just gtfo.

The default expectation is sex, for her as well as me, it’s of high value to her as it is to me. I go into monk-like peace, it’s pretty amazing how I can freeze out a gal, and it usually only takes once, because it’s diametrically different than my normal state which is intimate, sexual+, caring, gentle and attentive. They desperately want to get back to the normal state and never want to see me angry again, the distance I can give a woman is pretty shocking to them.

I can do this because chances are I’ve had a great session with her or another woman/women in the last 24 hours.

Not being dependent on her alone for sex is key to many interactions with women.


Ive never implemented this tactic. How does it work? She comes over and if let’s say she said something out of turn the week prior, u make her wait a few hours? I cant imagine u inviting a girl over (especially a plate) and then just turning her down bc what would be the point? U basically gave her your time for nothing in return
 
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So, first off it’s something I use with a woman no matter her status, plate or otherwise.

Sex is a big draw in any relationship I have with a woman, as I highly sexualize my relationships and pick women that have a drive that is similar to mine which is high. When I meet with a woman the default expectation is sex for both of us, she’s coming over or I’m headed to her and there will be at least an hour or several of vigorous sex.

Let’s say for example the woman I’m seeing that day and I have have a little spat about something, could be anything. Let’s imagine she says something disrespectful to me in conversation, I correct her and she does not back down, it then turns into an argument and unpleasant. I will withhold sex, or tell her to just gtfo.

The default expectation is sex, for her as well as me, it’s of high value to her as it is to me. I go into monk-like peace, it’s pretty amazing how I can freeze out a gal, and it usually only takes once, because it’s diametrically different than my normal state which is intimate, sexual+, caring, gentle and attentive.
I just remembered doing something similar with this brazilian chick who wouldn't bl@w me after i ate her out. I told her to go down and she just refused without even some pleasant excuse. Some girls are arrogant in this manner. The result was that i simply turned to the side and went to sleep without escelating to an actual bang. That night, we slept together, i simply didn't cuddle w her at all. Then in the morning, i guess she felt bad and ended up doing the deed and then i ban8ed her as well.
 

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Yeah, I’ve had situations where a plate comes over and falls asleep because of some stress at work or whatever. I just shoo them later that night, (I rarely let a woman overnight and it’s a huge treat for them if I do).

The plate knows she fncked up subconsciously. I’ll be cordial with them in subsequent conversations but not encouraging as normal. They will be put on the shelf for several days, unlike normal with a plate which can be 2x a week.

You establish this pattern over time and never explain it, they still figure it out on their own.

Sometimes when they ask to come over I’ll say “sure 6pm, I expect you to be commando and bra less”. Or something like that that defaults to sex.

It’s not a science, it’s more like art. Over a few times if I’m not getting what I want I will break it off. It’s not like they weren’t warned that has only occurred once in years - dropping a woman because she’s not doing what I want, be it sexual or otherwise. They comply 99% of the time.
 

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Thanks that might be a good idea but I would prefer to solve this issue without relying on drugs. I will try noporn / nofap first.
That’s the natural approach. I’m on 8 days nofap/noporn just for hard reset and to dull the edges
The drugz are just my emergency kit for when im drained and Ima sex a new chick for the first time and I want to leave a mark on her
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So, first off it’s something I use with a woman no matter her status, plate or otherwise.

Sex is a big draw in any relationship I have with a woman, as I highly sexualize my relationships and pick women that have a drive that is similar to mine which is high. When I meet with a woman the default expectation is sex for both of us, she’s coming over or I’m headed to her and there will be at least an hour or several of vigorous sex.

Let’s say for example the woman I’m seeing that day and I have have a little spat about something, could be anything. Let’s imagine she says something disrespectful to me in conversation, I correct her and she does not back down, it then turns into an argument and unpleasant. I will withhold sex, or tell her to just gtfo.

The default expectation is sex, for her as well as me, it’s of high value to her as it is to me. I go into monk-like peace, it’s pretty amazing how I can freeze out a gal, and it usually only takes once, because it’s diametrically different than my normal state which is intimate, sexual+, caring, gentle and attentive. They desperately want to get back to the normal state and never want to see me angry again, the distance I can give a woman is pretty shocking to them.

I can do this because chances are I’ve had a great session with her or another woman/women in the last 24 hours.

Not being dependent on her alone for sex is key to many interactions with women.
I have given females a good ol’ fashion boot out of my pad at 4am just because they got lippy with a masculine attitude. I don’t need negative energies in my place.
 

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That’s the natural approach. I’m on 8 days nofap/noporn just for hard reset and to dull the edges
The drugz are just my emergency kit for when im drained and Ima sex a new chick for the first time and I want to leave a mark on her
I am going to follow your advice man and go see a doc. The chick I did not fvck last time we saw each other wants to meet up at my place again next week, and I want to make sure I will bang her brains out this time.
 

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All the time. I generally find sex draining and a waste of time unless I genuinely like the girl.
 
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I dont know if I belong here anymore. I could spin plates but don't. I **** things up on purpose with women I like. I turn down ass from exs calling..
The advice would be work on yourself. But I like who I am.

A hopeless romantic using a forum to help get ass that I have never needed help getting.

This could all change tomorrow when i get laid its only been a few days. But.

I don't think everything said here is for everyone. Its just the safe lonely way of life.

This is coming off a good connection I ****ed up.

Turned down a 20 year old. Turned down another 30 something. Have 4 or 5 in contacts on old. 5 more from weeks or more on old I just let fizzle. Im in a rut.
 

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Lessons here are safe. But when does being safe end up with greatness.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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