"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Do you ever turn a plate down for sex?

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After a good date. She wants to come in. Or initiates. You give an excuse.

I have experience and done it multiple times for various reasons. I ****s with them so bad. That it either becomes some evil revenge, them leaving things at your house, or a plate for years to come.

Thoughts..???
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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So some girls either get super devoted or just ghost u after this tactic? I personally dont like to play games like this especially if the connection is good, i feel like theyd see right thru me. Not sure
 

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I did it recently. The girl and i were making out on my sofa, and I knew she wanted more but I stopped things right there and told her that I needed to wake up early in the morning (dumb excuse I know).
Reason being that I currently have no desire for sex and and I knew I would not be able to perform well.
But I think it's never good to turn down a girl for sex. She will most likely see it as unmanly.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I did it recently. The girl and i were making out on my sofa, and I knew she wanted more but I stopped things right there and told her that I needed to wake up early in the morning (dumb excuse I know).
Reason being that I currently have no desire for sex and and I knew I would not be able to perform well.
But I think it's never good to turn down a girl for sex. She will most likely see it as unmanly.
I think real men dont care for sex that much if they have abundance. Its bla for them. I turned down a girl recently cuz she was too sensitive and i figured she wouldnt handle a casual dynamic well. I told her that i turned her down for her own good. I liked her but she was way too raw and emotional, kind of annoying really. She respected me. I did end up banging her eventually twice but then i said it couldnt contineu.
 

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If I’m disciplining a woman I will absolute not allow sex to occur until she relents. Women respect men that can control their urges. And when they respect you the knickers get moist.
 

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I did it recently. The girl and i were making out on my sofa, and I knew she wanted more but I stopped things right there and told her that I needed to wake up early in the morning (dumb excuse I know).
Reason being that I currently have no desire for sex and and I knew I would not be able to perform well.
But I think it's never good to turn down a girl for sex. She will most likely see it as unmanly.
keep a stash of sildenafil 100mg. I got some pills that give me no symptoms just a raging piercing hard on and it adds blood pumping girth.
Pop one 1-2 hours before she pulls up. Take a swig of some wine.
By the time you set the tempo and she still babysits her 2nd glass of wine then you will be ready to take it downtown my guy
 

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If I’m disciplining a woman I will absolute not allow sex to occur until she relents. Women respect men that can control their urges. And when they respect you the knickers get moist.
Ive never implemented this tactic. How does it work? She comes over and if lets say she said something out of turn the week prior, u make her wait a few hours? I cant imagine u inviting a girl over (especially a plate) and then just turning her down bc what would be the point? U basically gave her your time for nothing in return
 

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keep a stash of sildenafil 100mg. I got some pills that give me no symptoms just a raging piercing hard on and it adds blood pumping girth.
Pop one 1-2 hours before she pulls up. Take a swig of some wine.
By the time you set the tempo and she still babysits her 2nd glass of wine then you will be ready to take it downtown my guy
Thanks that might be a good idea but I would prefer to solve this issue without relying on drugs. I will try noporn / nofap first.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So, first off it’s something I use with a woman no matter her status, plate or otherwise.

Sex is a big draw in any relationship I have with a woman, as I highly sexualize my relationships and pick women that have a drive that is similar to mine which is high. When I meet with a woman the default expectation is sex for both of us, she’s coming over or I’m headed to her and there will be at least an hour or several of vigorous sex.

Let’s say for example the woman I’m seeing that day and I have have a little spat about something, could be anything. Let’s imagine she says something disrespectful to me in conversation, I correct her and she does not back down, it then turns into an argument and unpleasant. I will withhold sex, or tell her to just gtfo.

The default expectation is sex, for her as well as me, it’s of high value to her as it is to me. I go into monk-like peace, it’s pretty amazing how I can freeze out a gal, and it usually only takes once, because it’s diametrically different than my normal state which is intimate, sexual+, caring, gentle and attentive. They desperately want to get back to the normal state and never want to see me angry again, the distance I can give a woman is pretty shocking to them.

I can do this because chances are I’ve had a great session with her or another woman/women in the last 24 hours.

Not being dependent on her alone for sex is key to many interactions with women.


Ive never implemented this tactic. How does it work? She comes over and if let’s say she said something out of turn the week prior, u make her wait a few hours? I cant imagine u inviting a girl over (especially a plate) and then just turning her down bc what would be the point? U basically gave her your time for nothing in return
 
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So, first off it’s something I use with a woman no matter her status, plate or otherwise.

Sex is a big draw in any relationship I have with a woman, as I highly sexualize my relationships and pick women that have a drive that is similar to mine which is high. When I meet with a woman the default expectation is sex for both of us, she’s coming over or I’m headed to her and there will be at least an hour or several of vigorous sex.

Let’s say for example the woman I’m seeing that day and I have have a little spat about something, could be anything. Let’s imagine she says something disrespectful to me in conversation, I correct her and she does not back down, it then turns into an argument and unpleasant. I will withhold sex, or tell her to just gtfo.

The default expectation is sex, for her as well as me, it’s of high value to her as it is to me. I go into monk-like peace, it’s pretty amazing how I can freeze out a gal, and it usually only takes once, because it’s diametrically different than my normal state which is intimate, sexual+, caring, gentle and attentive.
I just remembered doing something similar with this brazilian chick who wouldn't bl@w me after i ate her out. I told her to go down and she just refused without even some pleasant excuse. Some girls are arrogant in this manner. The result was that i simply turned to the side and went to sleep without escelating to an actual bang. That night, we slept together, i simply didn't cuddle w her at all. Then in the morning, i guess she felt bad and ended up doing the deed and then i ban8ed her as well.
 

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Yeah, I’ve had situations where a plate comes over and falls asleep because of some stress at work or whatever. I just shoo them later that night, (I rarely let a woman overnight and it’s a huge treat for them if I do).

The plate knows she fncked up subconsciously. I’ll be cordial with them in subsequent conversations but not encouraging as normal. They will be put on the shelf for several days, unlike normal with a plate which can be 2x a week.

You establish this pattern over time and never explain it, they still figure it out on their own.

Sometimes when they ask to come over I’ll say “sure 6pm, I expect you to be commando and bra less”. Or something like that that defaults to sex.

It’s not a science, it’s more like art. Over a few times if I’m not getting what I want I will break it off. It’s not like they weren’t warned that has only occurred once in years - dropping a woman because she’s not doing what I want, be it sexual or otherwise. They comply 99% of the time.
 

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Thanks that might be a good idea but I would prefer to solve this issue without relying on drugs. I will try noporn / nofap first.
That’s the natural approach. I’m on 8 days nofap/noporn just for hard reset and to dull the edges
The drugz are just my emergency kit for when im drained and Ima sex a new chick for the first time and I want to leave a mark on her
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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So, first off it’s something I use with a woman no matter her status, plate or otherwise.

Sex is a big draw in any relationship I have with a woman, as I highly sexualize my relationships and pick women that have a drive that is similar to mine which is high. When I meet with a woman the default expectation is sex for both of us, she’s coming over or I’m headed to her and there will be at least an hour or several of vigorous sex.

Let’s say for example the woman I’m seeing that day and I have have a little spat about something, could be anything. Let’s imagine she says something disrespectful to me in conversation, I correct her and she does not back down, it then turns into an argument and unpleasant. I will withhold sex, or tell her to just gtfo.

The default expectation is sex, for her as well as me, it’s of high value to her as it is to me. I go into monk-like peace, it’s pretty amazing how I can freeze out a gal, and it usually only takes once, because it’s diametrically different than my normal state which is intimate, sexual+, caring, gentle and attentive. They desperately want to get back to the normal state and never want to see me angry again, the distance I can give a woman is pretty shocking to them.

I can do this because chances are I’ve had a great session with her or another woman/women in the last 24 hours.

Not being dependent on her alone for sex is key to many interactions with women.
I have given females a good ol’ fashion boot out of my pad at 4am just because they got lippy with a masculine attitude. I don’t need negative energies in my place.
 

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That’s the natural approach. I’m on 8 days nofap/noporn just for hard reset and to dull the edges
The drugz are just my emergency kit for when im drained and Ima sex a new chick for the first time and I want to leave a mark on her
I am going to follow your advice man and go see a doc. The chick I did not fvck last time we saw each other wants to meet up at my place again next week, and I want to make sure I will bang her brains out this time.
 

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All the time. I generally find sex draining and a waste of time unless I genuinely like the girl.
 
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I dont know if I belong here anymore. I could spin plates but don't. I **** things up on purpose with women I like. I turn down ass from exs calling..
The advice would be work on yourself. But I like who I am.

A hopeless romantic using a forum to help get ass that I have never needed help getting.

This could all change tomorrow when i get laid its only been a few days. But.

I don't think everything said here is for everyone. Its just the safe lonely way of life.

This is coming off a good connection I ****ed up.

Turned down a 20 year old. Turned down another 30 something. Have 4 or 5 in contacts on old. 5 more from weeks or more on old I just let fizzle. Im in a rut.
 

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Lessons here are safe. But when does being safe end up with greatness.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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