"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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Do you ever spin Grocery Game?

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I was watching this, and it got me interested:


And of course, there is the classic grocery pickup scene:

 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

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I been doing this...and suggesting it.

When I suggest grocery store game, it falls on deaf ears and blind eyes.

But when someone else suggests it, it is the greatest thing in the world.

Like Jadakiss once said in his hit "Why"..

"Why I say the hottest shiit, but be selling the least"?

Woe is me :cool:
 

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in many ways they are more effective but the smal grocery stores where the employees are right in your face stacking things gets super awkward
 

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I have been known to approach in grocery stores. It is likely my favorite traditional daygame venue for approaching.

The foundation of my grocery store approaches is based on Roosh's "Day Bang", which I read in the early 2010s. His grocery store model of approaching made a lot of sense for me.

Every grocery store attracts somewhat different consumers. It's a good idea for men to think about the women that they are into and think about where those women are most likely to shop for groceries. As a result, certain men to be more successful at approaching in some stores as compared to others for a variety of reasons. @We_ArE_VeNOM has mentioned he's gotten results in Walmart Supercenter.

I have done a lot of grocery store approaching in my life across brands of grocery stores. I have gotten more dates at Kroger/Albertsons branded stores (see links below for list of those store brand names) as compared to Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, Sprouts, or Natural Grocers. That may be something specific to me and my approaching/vibe.

In general, Whole Foods gets hyped a lot as a place for approaching. In my experience, reality doesn't match the hype for Whole Foods.. Among similar stores, I think that Sprouts is better for approaching. Most women in Whole Foods generally aren't open to finding dates at Whole Foods. The women in the video that @MatureDJ posted are not even close to being a representative sample of attitudes of women who shop at Whole Foods. The woman at the 8:05 point in the video he linked is probably most indicative of the typical female at Whole Foods. In my city, I've never seen any women who seem to be actively boyfriend and husband hunting at Whole Foods.

I also think the women who actively try to look for men in Whole Foods would also be some of the least likely to actually get approached by men in Whole Foods.


 

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I’m not single but if I were, I absolutely would considering I’ve several times had women start conversations with me and show IOI while shopping.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I’m not single but if I were, I absolutely would considering I’ve several times had women start conversations with me and show IOI while shopping.
I am single and this has happened to me also. My favorite grocery store here in H-Town is HEB. I actually meet a very attractive woman at HEB about a year ago. She approached me. We started dating for a while, but it didn't last.
I have also "missed" opportunities to meet attractive women because I was not prepared to approach. For this type of approach to work I learned that you have to be ready.
 

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I am single and this has happened to me also. My favorite grocery store here in H-Town is HEB. I actually meet a very attractive woman at HEB about a year ago. She approached me. We started dating for a while, but it didn't last.
I have also "missed" opportunities to meet attractive women because I was not prepared to approach. For this type of approach to work I learned that you have to be ready.
When I was young I fumbled with some of the most flagrant IOI’s.
 

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My favorite grocery store here in H-Town is HEB. I actually meet a very attractive woman at HEB about a year ago.
HEB operates an upscale grocery concept called Central Market that it intended to compete with Whole Foods. It only has 10 locations. Do you ever go to Central Market? There is only one Houston location. There are 6 Central Markets in Dallas - Fort Worth. 3 are in Dallas, 1 in Fort Worth, 1 in Plano, and 1 in Southlake.

HEB is more along the lines of a Kroger or Albertsons chain store. In Houston, you have Randalls, which is an Albertsons owned brand.
 

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I was watching this, and it got me interested:


And of course, there is the classic grocery pickup scene:

High end grocery stores are superb places to meet high-quality people, beautiful, classy women included
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The woman at the 8:05 point in the video he linked is probably most indicative of the typical female at Whole Foods. In my city, I've never seen any women who seem to be actively boyfriend and husband hunting at Whole Foods.
I find her response perfectly normal ... and keep in mind it is coming from a Tik Toker who admits she carries plenty of baggage. I can only imagine what kind of low quality woman would fall for a cheesy PUA line in a grocery store. :oops:
 
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I can only imagine what kind of low quality woman would fall for a cheesy PUA line in a grocery store. :oops:
Yeah, it's NOT flattering. It's not insulting either, it's not anything.

The guys doing it are practicing their 'Day Game' per Roosh, with a big fat G.

Some women mistakenly believe he's singled her out, that she must be "special" - more beautiful, more extraordinary than other women - such women are delusional imo.

He's simply out Gaming for the day, most savvy women know this.

Now if she had given him a 'window,' some sort of IOI as I've done before he approached or asked for her number, that would be entirely different.

But the guys who boldly approach random women, out shopping or doing their thing minding their own business?

Nothing flattering about that in the least and I just keep walking....

$.02.
 
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HEB operates an upscale grocery concept called Central Market that it intended to compete with Whole Foods. It only has 10 locations. Do you ever go to Central Market? There is only one Houston location. There are 6 Central Markets in Dallas - Fort Worth. 3 are in Dallas, 1 in Fort Worth, 1 in Plano, and 1 in Southlake.

HEB is more along the lines of a Kroger or Albertsons chain store. In Houston, you have Randalls, which is an Albertsons owned brand.
Yes I do go to central market. It’s in River Oaks. I have family that lives fairly close to there. The H-E-B closest to me is in Meyerland, and it is fairly high scale. I live a few miles south of there.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yeah, it's NOT flattering. It's not insulting either, it's not anything.

The guys doing it are practicing their 'Day Game' per Roosh, with a big fat G.

Some women mistakenly believe he's singled her out, that she must be "special" - more beautiful, more extraordinary than other women - such women are delusional imo.

He's simply out Gaming for the day, most savvy women know this.

Now if she had given him a 'window,' some sort of IOI as I've done before he approached or asked for her number, that would be entirely different.

But the guys who boldly approach random women, out shopping or doing their thing minding their own business?

Nothing flattering about that in the least and I just keep walking....

$.02.
Cold approaching is anti-social.
 

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I am all about them Aldi's half price peaches.
 

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In SF. The ‘singles’ grocery store was the Marina Safeway. Until a homeless guy took a dump on the floor.
San Francisco is filled with homeless people. This seems typical for San Francisco.

I can only imagine what kind of low quality woman would fall for a cheesy PUA line in a grocery store. :oops:
,it's NOT flattering. It's not insulting either, it's not anything.

The guys doing it are practicing their 'Day Game' per Roosh, with a big fat G.
I have done many grocery store approaches. I've never used a cheesy PUA line or gotten rejected harshly. Most interactions have involved a short lasting conversation that goes nowhere. It does not result in an offer to get together being made. It isn't much of anything other than two human beings having a meaningless interaction. I do these approaches in a socially calibrated manner.

Some women mistakenly believe he's singled her out, that she must be "special" - more beautiful, more extraordinary than other women - such women are delusional imo.

He's simply out Gaming for the day, most savvy women know this.
I have been complimented by women for approaching them in non-bar venues. They've expressed positive feelings about meeting someone in such an unexpected way. It is because I made the interaction look completely natural.

Now if she had given him a 'window,' some sort of IOI as I've done before he approached or asked for her number, that would be entirely different.
I agree that this would be different. This rarely happens for most men. The majority of my non-bar approaches have been without a strong IOI like this. It is an ideal scenario when a strong IOI is shown. I'm most excited to make the approaches involving a strong IOI first.

the guys who boldly approach random women, out shopping or doing their thing minding their own business?

Nothing flattering about that in the least and I just keep walking....
This is more typical of non-bar approaches in any non-bar venue. I try to make my approaches look as non-interruptive and as natural as possible. I've rarely ever encountered anyone who just kept walking. Looks > personality. Reasonably good looking men will not experience harsh rejections in typical non-bar approaches, even without a great opening line. The approaches might not amount to much as I described earlier in this response. Top-tier or 'Chad' tier men are more likely to get more positive responses in non-bar approaching.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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