You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
BB nailed it. Ditto to the question about asking whether she's a virgin or not. That's why I get such a kick out of people like LMS who only want virgins; they're actually people out there (like LMS) that are naive enough to think they can know for sure whether a girl is telling them the truth about STDs or even virginity.joekerr31 said:just wondering, first time you sleep with a girl, do you ask them if they have any stds or do you just assume that if they did they would tell you?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
And how does one go about being careful when driving?DJDamage said:Yep it is a mood killer. One time I was dating this girl, had my condom on and everything but before i penetrated her she asked me "is there anything i should know about before we do this"?. Even though I am clean, it ruined the moment because now instead of thinking about screwing her, in the back of my mind is all about the dangers of STD's. Needless to say it wasn't a good fvck.
STD's are like driving in cars. People die every day driving a car on the highway's, does that mean you will stop driving? no. What it means is that if you are really careful about it and know what you are doing, you are more likely to avoid a serious accident/death but maybe just get a bump or two along the way.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Hence why I'd probably want to see the test results themselves.Bible_Belt said:yes, you SHOULD ask her if she has any STIs. That doesn't not ruin the mood. That gives BOTH people a piece of mind.
You guys trust what women say?
:crackup:
would it be acceptable for me to pull out a flashlight and inspect her vagina before doing anything with her?skirtChaser said:most of the time she doesn't even know
Might wanna swab it down and study it on a petri dish while you're at it.joekerr31 said:would it be acceptable for me to pull out a flashlight and inspect her vagina before doing anything with her?
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
i heard that if a woman queffs that it means she has an STD.Master Bates said:Might wanna swab it down and study it on a petri dish while you're at it.
I have asked in the past; it hasnt gone over too well.joekerr31 said:just wondering, first time you sleep with a girl, do you ask them if they have any stds or do you just assume that if they did they would tell you?
Good advice BB, especially on the herpes topic.Bible_Belt said:It's a pointless question, Joekerr. It only kills the mood. If she had anything serious enough to answer "yes," then she has already made up her mind about telling you. She won't not tell you just because you don't ask.
And btw, the answer is "yes" unless she is a virgin. Every sexually active woman carries the HPV virus. Most women also have at least oral herpes, genital is like 1 in 4 or 5. Molluscum contagiousum is the std I just got, which popped up in the middle of a 6-mo LTR. Science is pretty clueless about it. Something like 25% of people might carry the mc virus. Although my sores are gone and there is only a tiny chance I could give it to a chick, there is no fvcking way that I am going to tell anyone about it. Being treated like a leper is no fun. My ex-wife and I had a threesome once with one of her friends, and we made the mistake of telling her that my wife had herpes. Then the chick treated me like I had herpes, even though I don't. Telling her about it beforehand was stupid. You pretty much only transmit herpes when there is a sore. I had unprotected sex for 7 years and never got it. And herpes is probably the most likely "yes" answer to your question. If she has it, then you don't want to know about it. It will only fvck with your head.
The best answer to this dilemma is to have sex with women who genuinely care about you, and would hate to see you get an std.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.