MatureDJ
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Do women really have sex with a man because they feel sorry for him?
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
sodbuster
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Had a friend get VERY sick. He would tell girls he only had 2 weeks to live[he looked it] and WOULD get pity focks
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I'd call shenanigans on that. If that were true betas and even omegas would be getting laid like tiles. Not saying the odd grovelling herb has never got a pity fvck from his upscaling ex but I'd hardly say it's a part of a woman's sexual habits.
taiyuu_otoko
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Have girls laid guys because they felt sorry for the guy, for whatever reason?
Absolutely.
Should it be part of your "game" to appear in need of sympathy lay?
Probably not.
(but just in case, loveshack is over here --------->)
As for the article, psychologists will do anything and everything to get published, just so they can keep riding the government funding gravy train.
I'm sure if they wanted, they could do a study that "showed statistical evidence" that women laid guys because they thought they were reptilian invaders from planet Jackoff.
The thing about statistics is that you can take a huge population of hundreds of millions of people, and show pretty much anything you want.
But it's all just noise. Treat it as such.
Absolutely.
Should it be part of your "game" to appear in need of sympathy lay?
Probably not.
(but just in case, loveshack is over here --------->)
As for the article, psychologists will do anything and everything to get published, just so they can keep riding the government funding gravy train.
I'm sure if they wanted, they could do a study that "showed statistical evidence" that women laid guys because they thought they were reptilian invaders from planet Jackoff.
The thing about statistics is that you can take a huge population of hundreds of millions of people, and show pretty much anything you want.
But it's all just noise. Treat it as such.
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Sure. People even marry, enter into relationships, etc... because they could feel an empathetic connection with someone. It is all about a connection and how you express yourself. The reason why it doesn't work is the woman doesn't feel that connection and may think they are being scammed and they are just another number in that "game".
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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I'm sure they do because of a calculation of getting a benefit from him. They really don't want to. If this were true in every sense of the word, well read what (.)(.) wrote.
Scaramouche
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Dear MDJ,
"Do women really have sex with a man because they feel sorry for him? "It certainly does appear that way from time to time.....My belief is that it is a sublimation of the nurturing instinct,which gave survival value to the tribe..Do not however be foolish enough to think this quality,taken to its extreme,is found in other than the odd few Women.....In fact I would suggest that in most,Pity is dangerously close to contempt!
"Do women really have sex with a man because they feel sorry for him? "It certainly does appear that way from time to time.....My belief is that it is a sublimation of the nurturing instinct,which gave survival value to the tribe..Do not however be foolish enough to think this quality,taken to its extreme,is found in other than the odd few Women.....In fact I would suggest that in most,Pity is dangerously close to contempt!
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Women feel sorry for men? I've never heard of that.
There might be some obligatory "maintenance sex" or "He just remodeled the kitchen sex" lol or "He bought me a necklace sex" in a marriage or LTR, but that is about it. It's more obligation that pity.
I don't believe in pity sex. I'm speaking as a guy that was a virgin for a VERY long time. I can assure you I got no pity or offers to "break me in" from females.
To the extent pity does exist, Scaramouche is spot on about it bordering on contempt.
There might be some obligatory "maintenance sex" or "He just remodeled the kitchen sex" lol or "He bought me a necklace sex" in a marriage or LTR, but that is about it. It's more obligation that pity.
I don't believe in pity sex. I'm speaking as a guy that was a virgin for a VERY long time. I can assure you I got no pity or offers to "break me in" from females.
To the extent pity does exist, Scaramouche is spot on about it bordering on contempt.
LiveFreeX
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I believe that's generally true or how would the majority of guys like Jaylan get laid?
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Yeah, can't see a woman having sex with a man simply because she felt sorry for him. It's just an excuse she tells herself and her girlfriends to make herself sound like less of a slvt, it also makes it sound like she was doing it for a good cause.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Or, more likely the woman herself has issues and is hiding something and connects with a nice cute guy who won't judge her in that arrangement. For kicks, it would be an experiment if someone started crying virgin on an AshleyMadison site to get pity sex from a married woman. Most pity-sex ideas are with woman who have serious issues, have bfs or who are married. They are hurting another party behind their back by their "pity" to you, so what would the quality of that "pity" be? So as you guessed it, there is always something underlining in the psyche that would undermine the notion of pure altrusim.Peaks&Valleys said:
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Well jeez isn't this a case of believing what a woman says, which we know is totally unreliable? What is a female going to say? "I had sex with a guy because I thought he was attractive enough, I'm horny and like to have sex?" No, she's going to rationalize other reasons for why she did it that are minor and extraneous to the real reason at best.
I don't think women do much of anything because they have pity for males. And I don't think women actually have sex for logical reasons or thinking. That's just their rationalizations which aren't the real reason for doing something of course.
I don't think women do much of anything because they have pity for males. And I don't think women actually have sex for logical reasons or thinking. That's just their rationalizations which aren't the real reason for doing something of course.
Only if they find him attractive. Used to get a lot of sympathy and save-a-bro (?) attempts, in addition to the standard flirting and etc. But ONLY from girls who were interested. So basically, no. Just them finding you attractive means they'll feel sorry for you, and whatever obstacle or "challenge" stands in their way.
But nothing they do is for anyone other than themselves. They want something out of it - like your interest, reciprocation, or sex. And to feel special and heroic. The same reason guys will find you weak and annoying for whining all the time - they aren't attracted to you. Just like how tgirls WON'T sympathize, try to fix / change, or give a half-assed damn about any random shmoe. If he's hot in their eyes - yes. If not, most couldn't care less... just like how they treat anyone they're not attracted to (or lose interest in): like ****.
But nothing they do is for anyone other than themselves. They want something out of it - like your interest, reciprocation, or sex. And to feel special and heroic. The same reason guys will find you weak and annoying for whining all the time - they aren't attracted to you. Just like how tgirls WON'T sympathize, try to fix / change, or give a half-assed damn about any random shmoe. If he's hot in their eyes - yes. If not, most couldn't care less... just like how they treat anyone they're not attracted to (or lose interest in): like ****.
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Simple Pick-Up. Guy on wheelchair approaches girls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Ixzp94ksw
It looks like it's working for them, lol!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Ixzp94ksw
It looks like it's working for them, lol!
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Scaramouche
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Dear MDJ,
Some years ago I worked with a cripped Guy,being bound to a Wheelchair certainly didn't inhibit him,he was a real Tiger,he bonded with my Steno Secretary of all people....She gained Kudos all round by being tender and loving around him...Used to take him "Dancing"in his Wheelchair,where she basked in Public Approval....Sadly poor old Peter liked little Boys too,and was one of Australias first AIDS victims,she followed not long after,a true Martyrs Death!
Some years ago I worked with a cripped Guy,being bound to a Wheelchair certainly didn't inhibit him,he was a real Tiger,he bonded with my Steno Secretary of all people....She gained Kudos all round by being tender and loving around him...Used to take him "Dancing"in his Wheelchair,where she basked in Public Approval....Sadly poor old Peter liked little Boys too,and was one of Australias first AIDS victims,she followed not long after,a true Martyrs Death!