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do u pick up your phone or text back on friday-saturday nights

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do u pick up your phone or text back on friday-saturday nights without having prior plan with that chick?

I don't ever text or call back on friday-saturday nights
 

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I'll tell you what I do, I don't answer the calls.

But I call back, maybe 10 minutes later, but make sure it is loud wherever I am. Even if I have to blast the stereo in my bedroom when I'm home and have work the next day, you don't want to appear as if you have no life.

I'll text back, like 10 minutes later, mentioning where I am.

Cell phones have really changed the way we do things. It facilitates hooking up. You can be at the bar, and then say "hey I'm at this bar" in a text message, and a girl you number closed a week ago could meet you there.

Text back on a Friday or Saturday night, sure. But tell her you are out. Invite her to join you. I did this the other night, it was a Thursday but same thing as a Friday. Also, sometimes girls are with their friends and then by like 1AM they are alone, looking for some pen15
 

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yaah, tanx for the input. I brainwashed myself into think that they would text you on a friday-saturday to see what you are doing, and if you "REPLIED" back in any form, it means to them "Oh this guy ain't doing crap" time to dump him and not call him ever again.

I mean, normally, i would text them back the next day around 10am-12am morning.
 

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okay, so have you gotten laid for telling them "WHERE YOU ARE AT and meeting with them" on a friday/saturday.. with no prior arrangements earlier in the week. did that ever lead to a lay? im not dissing u or anything but, im just curious about this... tnx
 

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guywhoneedshelp said:
I'll tell you what I do, I don't answer the calls.

But I call back, maybe 10 minutes later, but make sure it is loud wherever I am. Even if I have to blast the stereo in my bedroom when I'm home and have work the next day, you don't want to appear as if you have no life.
Ha ha... you can't be serious? Talk about putting on a fascade.

Just back to them the next day in the daytime, simple.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Why is this a big deal? Maybe, a girl who likes you is going out to a party and wants you to come. But, since you didn;t wanna answer your phone you missed out. I think some of guys are way too concerned in trying to act "busy" and "mysterious"...
 

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verysuave said:
okay, so have you gotten laid for telling them "WHERE YOU ARE AT and meeting with them" on a friday/saturday.. with no prior arrangements earlier in the week. did that ever lead to a lay? im not dissing u or anything but, im just curious about this... tnx
Well, yes. I've had a girl text me to say she was going to the movies, but I was at a party so couldn't be there. Then she texted me saying she was having people come over, so I left my friends house and went there. Ya know...spontaneous..depends on where you live I guess...

Sometimes a girl will text and say something random like "I just broke my ankle" and I'll be like "lol what" and she'll be like "we're all drinking at walmart and someone just stepped on my foot" and I'll be like "lol i gotta see this " *show up in 15 minutes with my friend in the car*
 

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Well, yes. I've had a girl text me to say she was going to the movies, but I was at a party so couldn't be there. Then she texted me saying she was having people come over, so I left my friends house and went there. Ya know...spontaneous..depends on where you live I guess...

Sometimes a girl will text and say something random like "I just broke my ankle" and I'll be like "lol what" and she'll be like "we're all drinking at walmart and someone just stepped on my foot" and I'll be like "lol i gotta see this " *show up in 15 minutes with my friend in the car*
u serious? u respond to BS texts?

when i get text on a friday, its usually "what you doing?" but i dont reply to em, i reply next day. Whether I AM BUSY or NOT BUSY, its a freaking rule for me and a pretty damn good one.

I think u are trolling?
 

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Why is this a big deal? Maybe, a girl who likes you is going out to a party and wants you to come. But, since you didn;t wanna answer your phone you missed out. I think some of guys are way too concerned in trying to act "busy" and "mysterious"...
Yea...seems like a bunch of d bags to me.
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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This thread is full of fail.

Why are you scared to answer your phone?

Maybe she is calling you thinking of banging you that night but you have your damn rules and completely ruin it for yourself
 

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jdon23 said:
This thread is full of fail.

Why are you scared to answer your phone?

Maybe she is calling you thinking of banging you that night but you have your damn rules and completely ruin it for yourself
+1. Sorry guys but most of your responses are pathetic. Sure, you don't want to be accessible every second or drop what your doing to pick up the phone... but don't put on a facade either.

Call back if you can, or don't bother if you're not interested. No reason to play these ridiculous games.

Do you really think a woman interested enough to call you will say, "Oh my god! He picked up his phone!! What a turn off!"

Faking a social life is incredibly lame. Ignoring a girl you want to escalate with intentionally is even more lame.

You know how fast a girl's interest level will peak and start to decrease? Keep ignoring her calls and she'll move on to the next guy that's not scared enough to ask if she wants to meet up.
 

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I answer my phone because I don't really care. I was even doing laundry on a Saturday night one time and a chick called and asked what I was doing. I told her laundry and she laughed and asked if she could come over. I said sure and she watched me do laundry and we f*cked.

I have no idea why people don't answer their cell phones when it's on them 24/7.
 

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armadon said:
I answer my phone because I don't really care. I was even doing laundry on a Saturday night one time and a chick called and asked what I was doing. I told her laundry and she laughed and asked if she could come over. I said sure and she watched me do laundry and we f*cked.

I have no idea why people don't answer their cell phones when it's on them 24/7.
would you want to deal with people you don't feel like dealing with at the moment? Me, no
 

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jdon23 said:
This thread is full of fail.

Why are you scared to answer your phone?

Maybe she is calling you thinking of banging you that night but you have your damn rules and completely ruin it for yourself
That's what I'm saying. The way you answer plays a big part in it too.

Don't answer saying "i'm so bored...life sucks...I'm doing laundry." be like "well right now I got some dirty clothing spinning around in the washing machine, pretty intense!"

be fun and exciting and she will be attracted to that.

BY the way

MANY GIRLS WILL COME SEE YOU ON A FRIDAY AND A SATURDAY AND F*** THE SH!T OUTTA YOU, WHICH COULD BE WHY THEY ARE TEXTING/CALLING YOU TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!

On a side note - Leykis 101 suggests never answering your phone on a Friday or Saturday night unless it is a guaranteed booty call. If not, I'd call back in 10 minutes, say sorry I was busy doing SOMETHING. While we may not want to appear pathetic, some girls actually understand that I have to be at work at 8:00AM on Saturday and Sunday and I may be home sleeping on a Friday or Saturday night. When I tell girls "yea I went to the city, got back at 4:00AM and went to sleep on the couch at work until my shift starting at 8" it doesn't make me sound any more attractive. It only makes me sound like I need a shower.
 

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She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

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guywhoneedshelp said:
That's what I'm saying. The way you answer plays a big part in it too.

Don't answer saying "i'm so bored...life sucks...I'm doing laundry." be like "well right now I got some dirty clothing spinning around in the washing machine, pretty intense!"

be fun and exciting and she will be attracted to that.


BY the way

MANY GIRLS WILL COME SEE YOU ON A FRIDAY AND A SATURDAY AND F*** THE SH!T OUTTA YOU, WHICH COULD BE WHY THEY ARE TEXTING/CALLING YOU TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!

On a side note - Leykis 101 suggests never answering your phone on a Friday or Saturday night unless it is a guaranteed booty call. If not, I'd call back in 10 minutes, say sorry I was busy doing SOMETHING. While we may not want to appear pathetic, some girls actually understand that I have to be at work at 8:00AM on Saturday and Sunday and I may be home sleeping on a Friday or Saturday night. When I tell girls "yea I went to the city, got back at 4:00AM and went to sleep on the couch at work until my shift starting at 8" it doesn't make me sound any more attractive. It only makes me sound like I need a shower.
:up: +1
 

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Well thanks, glad what I said made sense to somebody. Lets not be afraid to pick up our phones lol
 

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did i do wrong? i didn't respond to her.

hey,

I've been going back and forth with this HB7.5. She doesn't pick up my phone calls and then will respond a couple days later via email. I've asked her out twice and each time she suggests another date or time period but I tell her I can't do that date (i'm in med school and don't have much free time).

She texted me last weekend on saturday night (around 11ish) "Are you out in the city tonight?". Since I was staying in studying for my first set of tests I didn't respond and waited til Wednesday to call. She didn't pick up and so I then texted her "horoscopes, got your message from saturday night but was busy. were you texting to try to win some brownie points? Cause its not that easy" Our previous text message conversation had been about how she was dropping the ball/losing brownie points and she said what could she do to earn those points back. I told her "maybe you can take me out for drinks but seeing as how you can't pick up your phone, I find that a tall order for you". She responded with a "I'm in the process of moving into the city with my future roommate but as soon as I'm settled in I will take you out for drinks".

She didnt respond to my text from Wednesday night and I'm thinking maybe I should've responded to her text on saturday night. Did I play it wrong?

appreciate any input.
 

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Did I play it wrong?

I think you did.


so I then texted her "horoscopes, got your message from saturday night but was busy. were you texting to try to win some brownie points? Cause its not that easy"
^ Lame. If you're p1ssed off at her, don't tell her how mad you are... just respond to her accordingly. Don't talk about it, be about it. She will see right through the tough guy routine if you lay it out in front of her.

Our previous text message conversation had been about how she was dropping the ball/losing brownie points and she said what could she do to earn those points back.
^Whaaaattt... She's going to lose a.s.a.p. if you're treating her like a disobedient girlfriend and you've only been on a couple dates

I told her "maybe you can take me out for drinks but seeing as how you can't pick up your phone, I find that a tall order for you".
^in other words, you're telling her she can treat you like crap and she'll still have her with way with you in the end

She responded with a "I'm in the process of moving into the city with my future roommate but as soon as I'm settled in I will take you out for drinks".
^ aka "Nevermind. I'm no longer interested."

Man the problem is you were already making her jump through hoops and holding her accountable for stuff and you two weren't committed to each other or exclusive. She doesn't owe you sh1t and vice versa. You need to ease up on your game and be more passive aggressive. Being more relaxed will attract her towards you, not punishing her and "making her pay" for forgetting to text you.

She can tell she gets under your skin and that makes you just like every other guy who worships the ground she walks on.

Telling her she has to earn you back is merely inviting her to do so and displays no strength whatsoever. I would have just nexted her in the damn first place and let my actions speak louder than words.
 

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hey,

I've been going back and forth with this HB7.5. She doesn't pick up my phone calls and then will respond a couple days later via email. I've asked her out twice and each time she suggests another date or time period but I tell her I can't do that date (i'm in med school and don't have much free time).

She texted me last weekend on saturday night (around 11ish) "Are you out in the city tonight?". Since I was staying in studying for my first set of tests I didn't respond and waited til Wednesday to call. She didn't pick up and so I then texted her "horoscopes, got your message from saturday night but was busy. were you texting to try to win some brownie points? Cause its not that easy" Our previous text message conversation had been about how she was dropping the ball/losing brownie points and she said what could she do to earn those points back. I told her "maybe you can take me out for drinks but seeing as how you can't pick up your phone, I find that a tall order for you". She responded with a "I'm in the process of moving into the city with my future roommate but as soon as I'm settled in I will take you out for drinks".

She didnt respond to my text from Wednesday night and I'm thinking maybe I should've responded to her text on saturday night. Did I play it wrong?

appreciate any input.
She probably had low intrest before you started trying to play games. You could have told her you were studying figuring you ARE a med student. Most people understand, and if they dont, eff them. Theres no reason to play these trivial games and pretend youre super rad and cool and busy.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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